AMC's The Walking Dead

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  1. 1028

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    Alot of people seem to be using the logic that Glenn "has to die, because there's no way anyone can survive that". I don't think this logic applies here. It's a TV show, and it's one that puts characters in situations like this all the time, only to have them survive. E.g. when Rick and Carl were held at gunpoint and Rick had to bite the guy to escape, when Rick and his team were locked in a trailer at Terminus, when Rick, Glenn, etc had their heads on the chopping block at Terminus, when Rick took a knife to his chest by Morgan, last season's finale where both Rick and Glenn looked like they were gonna die, etc etc.

    Agreed its unrealistic. Still don't think he dies because "theres no way he could survive that", though.
     
  2. RuJFan

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    Did you guys notice that there is no overall purpose to the group at the moment, nothing but JSS? Every season had something for them to shoot for, some light at the end of the tunnel, some perceived safe heaven be that CDC, Terminus, Washington... IMO, they (authors) need such target and perhaps this episode is the setting up of it...

    What if Glenn is immune to the virus, the only living person that can be bitten without turning? This should provide a good goal to pursue for several more seasons. Hell, it would provide an optimistic way to end the series (if authors choose optimism, that is ;)). It would also be sufficiently heroic and important for the character of Glenn's statute.

    Of course, he's in the process of being eaten to death by the walkers, so this is kind of academic...
     
  3. 1028

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    There are all types of bizarre scenarios under which show could prob stage a comeback. The following one is pretty absurd, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the writers try to set this up:

    "Another distinct possibility is that the cowardly Nicholas was hallucinating the entire sequence of events at the moment when the duo stood atop the dumpster as he mentally zones out, meaning neither of them are on death's door."
     
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    Next weeks episode is also during the mets World Series game. Ugh
     
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    Plausible, but lame
     
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    Worst cop out ever. Also my guess for the "part of him" that'll see to finish the story is his child in Maggie's womb. Glen will live on through his offspring.
     
  7. JStokes

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    And then Glenn wakes up and Victoria Principal is in bed next to him.

    And then he wakes up from THAT dream and Suzanne Pleshette is in bed next to him.

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    lol. I was going to go that route, but you beat me to it.
     
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    Something like this with him riding it out under the dumpster is the only way it works. I hope he comes back too. And i don't care if its a stretch, i am watching a show about the zombie apocalypse, not to be intellectually stimulated, but for mindless entertainment on a quiet sunday night
     
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    In that case I wish they'd bring back Shane. And Merle.

    And Lori only to kill her again.

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    Shane and Merle were clearly killed on screen. It's how unfinished Glen and Lori were that keep the rumours going. I still think both are done with but great writing as it has created huge buzz and any comfort in the idea that main characters get huge send off deaths is gone.
     
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    The next time I see Glen I'm hoping it's like this, lol

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  13. Walt White

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    Btw, poor Maggie! Unspeakable tragedy has befallen her the whole way through the apocalypse.

    How will she ever cope and adjust to this? :)
     
  14. 1028

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    Actually, I take it back. If Glenn does survive, this is a probable explanation.

    Rewatch the episode. Nicholas and Glenn get cornered in an alley, and start firing bullets at the walkers. They switch to knives when they run out of bullets. You can hear the sound effects of Nicholas trying to fire an empty magazine. So where'd he get the bullet to kill himself?

    The Talking Dead listed Nicholas as a deceased party (I think), so something is definitely amiss. Whatever the case may be, looks like AMC was trying so hard to be ambiguous that they failed to address all the plot holes.
     
  15. Aewhistory

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    The thing is that good fiction must maintain suspension of disbelief. It is one of the reasons why I like to try to provide plausible explanations and/or try to understand how the writers may have meant for a given scene to be interpreted. For me this goes a long way toward my own enjoyment of the program's I watch simply because it he,so maintain the suspension of disbelief in the show. Consequently, if the show just pulls a magic trick out of its ass because it is implausible fiction then the entire edifice of suspension of disbelief comes crumbling down. The fictional world that has been carefully constructed on some key lies (eg- that the dead can rise, or that a high school chemistry teacher would become a meth kingpin when we all know that's a middle school chemistry teacher thing.... :)) no longer can bear the burden of supporting additional improbabilities. Good shows and good writers know when they've approached the line and do not cross it. Most shows and most writers, especially nowadays, seem to enjoy prancing right over that line and shattering the entire construct they've created....... That's when I stop watching.
     
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    This is interesting because the episode never really did explain that whining sound (or was is the whiny sound) Nicholas was hearing. Figures that that little cowardly bitch would hear a whiny sound, eh? In any event, this theory does explain a few things. However, it does reek of the whole Dallas/whole season was a dream BS. I don't care for that sort of plot device, but I've seen worse.
     
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    I think they were eating the other guy...He was covered in Dead blood so Glenn will be fine...o_O
     
  18. 1028

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    More feed for the fodder:

    http://www.hollywoodtake.com/will-g...-spoilers-show-walkers-and-wolves-will-108876

    These were posted on the 23rd/24th, before TWD aired on the 25th. The link predicted nearly every event that happened last episode, lol, including one as specific that Nick will shoot himself after getting himself cornered with Glenn on top of a dumpster in an alleyway, after saying "Thank you".

    The predictions then go on to say that Glenn (not Nicholas) is the one who hallucinated the event. Their track record seems immaculate, so I'll subscribe to their theory :)

    SPOILER ALERT. THE LINK ALSO DISCUSSES EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN THE COMICS. These may or may not happen in the show itself.
     
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    He's dead. The pussy that shot himself fell to the ground first. Glenn wasn't underneath him.
     
  20. Bellows1

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    Then at the last second, the hero jumps from the car, before it plummets over the cliff... Glen survives.
    Although I like Glenn, killing off the main characters is part of the appeal, for me.
     

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