http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...on-struggling-mightily-at-lions-training-camp Eric Ebron the #1 TE that came from a Pro-style offense is struggling. Hopefully Amaro picks things up but until live action you never know.
overall expectations of our roster is a little unrealistic, especially with the rooks. It's rare that a rook can step in immediately and make a big impact. Just because we drafted a guy in the 2nd round, it doesn't mean we've got our answer for that position this year. Amaro will see some time, but i think our overall TE unit will be a weakness in 2014. hopefully they surprise me and show otherwise. we'll see.
It really took me by surprise how fans expect all of our rookies to be impactful early. It is very unusual, and I think they must be spoiled by Sheldon Richardson last year. There's a reason he won DROY, and it's because that early impact is special. Pryor is the most pro ready of our picks and even he will likely face difficulties adjusting to the pro level. We haven't even hit preseason game #1 and people are already worried that Amaro will need a redshirt year because he is having a hard time with the playbook? C'mon guys give me a break. I guess I really shouldn't be surprised by this though.
I don't care who catches the ball just as long as he's wearing a Jets uniform. If Sudafed is making plays then give him the damn ball!
We will see starting tomorrow. If Vick is throwing him passes in the 2nd, that is a great test. Vick can zip the ball still.
I think if we can give Hill 3 years we can give Amaro 8 games before we make anything like an assessment of his potential.
Wait. We can redshirt rookies? I had no idea. He will have between 20-30 catches and might score a TD or two. Is that a redshirt season? Uninjured reserve? Repeating 2nd grade?
That's actually EXACTLY why people think he needs a redshirt. You made the perfect argument. I don't expect a lot from him BECAUSE it's early and he needs time. Redshirting him (meaning limited play time), will give him time to learn the playbook. It by no means insinuates that he will not be good or what his ceiling is. I think Jace Amaro can be an explosive player for the Jets a couple years down the road...that's why he needs to sit back and learn. He simply doesn't know what he's doing yet and can't even focus on catching the ball. Let's face reality...he came from a simplified offense at Texas Tech. He's gonna need time. Nobody is quitting on him. If anything, starting him early IS expecting him to be impactful early.
I don't think anyone is assessing his potential by limiting his playing time. In fact, I think Jace's potential is far reaching above any TE the Jets have had in the past 10 years. The problem is that he's not ready and needs time to grow. There's no need to rush him into a starting position. I say give Amaro 3 years before assessing his potential. Deciding to limit playing time for a rookie is a common thing and has nothing to do with judging his potential.
Ny post article Training camp has not been kind to the Jets’ draft class. Safety Calvin Pryor, the team’s first-round pick, has been sidelined with a concussion and will not play in Thursday’s preseason opener against the Colts. Wide receiver Shaq Evans, taken in the fourth round, won’t play due to a shoulder injury that could cost him the entire season. Then, there’s Jace Amaro. The tight end from Texas Tech was taken in the second round by the Jets, and instantly had high expectations placed upon him. After catching 106 passes last year in college, the thought was he could be a receiving option the Jets have lacked. So far, he has struggled. Amaro has dropped a ton of passes in practice and is clearly struggling to learn the offense. He has drawn the ire of quarterback Geno Smith and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg in practice, with both of them yelling at him about his route running. “What I see [with] Jace is he’s getting better and when Jace knows what he’s doing, when he’s dialed in, then we’re really pleased with it,” Jets coach Rex Ryan said. “It’s when he’s not so sure, that’s when he’s making mistakes. Again, I feel good about Jace. There’s no doubt I feel good about him. We’ll see how he performs, but I expect him to play well Thursday.” Amaro lined up mostly split off from the offensive line at Texas Tech and has had to adjust to being an in-line tight end, though the Jets are splitting him out wide at times, too. His blocking skills are shaky, but the Jets won’t care if he can become a complementary receiving threat to Eric Decker. “His expectations are high and so are ours for Jace,” Mornhinweg said last week. “His challenge is, [and] he’s going to be a fine player, how quick he can get that thing done. So that’s his challenge. Steve Hagen is the tight end coach and [is] working hard with Jace [on] just very basic things – terminology and first two steps and how we’re getting in and out of things and all the different routes.”
Redshirting actually means he won't play at all, only practice. There's no reason to believe Amaro can't drop 400 yards or so receiving, and probably pick up steam as the season progresses. Redshirting an early round pick is dumb, you want your guys to get as much experience as is possible. If a player is not expected to offer anything at all his first year then you take him in a late round. You have to manage the line between getting a player more experience and giving him too much to handle, but figuring that line means a redshirt season based on nothing but a couple weeks of training camp is foolish.
First of all...I think his Tc struggles are getting slightly overblown based on what I've read. Yes he's dropped a few & is struggling w/ the playbook but he's also had his share of nice catches.He's not "dropping every ball". I expect him to end the season as the #2 TE , have 15-25 catches & 1 or 2 TDS. He'll have his biggest impact in the red zone. Let's hope the future is bright.
If by red shirt you mean whether I think he will do next to nothing, the answer is yes. Jimmy Graham barely played his rookie year, but you could see glimpses even then that he was a beast. In Amaro's case, in my opinion unforunately it's more that the guy is just a stiff. He just doesn't have the speed or athleticism or talent to be an elite guy. On top of that, he doesn't block. On top of that, it remains to be seen whether he has the mental acumen to learn the pro game and adjust to it. The guy's ceiling is Heath Miller -- a lead-footed guy who can exploit soft spots in zones or leak out on extended plays as a safety valve -- minus the in-line blocking skill. If we were looking for a true offensive weapon, Seferian-Jenkins was the man to go after. Gronk had like 8 TDs his rookie year. If a rookie TE is gonna pull that off this year, my money would be on him. Meanwhile, in round 1 a legit playmaker who could have made a difference for this offense in 2014 fell into our lap and Idzik basically said, "no thanks...i want to make my head coach who only cares about the other side of the ball happy": http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9404/brandin-cooks/1 First-round WR Brandin Cooks has been the "star" of the "entire" Saints training camp so far. Beat writers, coaches and teammates have been raving about Cooks on an almost daily basis since camp opened. It continued Saturday as the reigning Biletnikoff Award winner lit up the Saints' defense in an intrasquad scrimmage for an unofficial six catches with one touchdown. Per beat man Mike Triplett, "it really has been remarkable how consistent and versatile Cooks has been." He's going to play inside the numbers as a versatile chess piece for Sean Payton and Drew Brees, giving Cooks immediate upside at his late eighth-round ADP. Aug 3 - 8:37
Aren't we notorious for using the 2nd round pick for upside projects anyway? Besides Harris, it's been Geno, Hill, Ducasse, Clemens...shit the most NFL-ready 2nd rounder we've taken in a decade was a KICKER! If he's not ready for prime-time, he came to the right place.
Yeah I fixed it for him. But still, one in a decade. And another point why this shouldn't shock anyone - rookie tight ends not making a huge impact is pretty normal. Gronk, Hernandez, Graham, Gates, Gonzalez...none of them had over 50 catches their rookie year. My expectations for him are to catch like 40 for 380-430 yards, and more importantly, learn the position at this level. Him, or anyone, saying near 100 is nuts.
I think he was damaged goods. Being a hard hitter as a DB has to take a toll. His play got him the selection, but he may only play 6 years tops. I am biased on this because I believe we should have drafted a WR in the first rd.
He was a hard hitter but he always led with his shoulder so he doesn't have a concussion issues. If his body breaks down due to the rigors of NFL physicality he would hardly be the first and won't be the last, but plenty of hard hitters have long careers if they take care of their bodies.
