No, you're the one who's having problems with logic. Although no one has started for the Jets except Sanchez in years, there are certain probabilities about who would be most likely to be a better, available option (if anyone). So the correct probabilities to have in your head are "Is Sanchez likely to be better than the best single alternative we could pull from all available sources?" The incorrect formulation is "Is Sanchez likely to be better than any other person we pulled at random, such as Stephen Hawking." That formulation of the question is flawed with a fallacy. It would be kind of like if we were discussing "Who do you predict, Tiger Woods or the field?" The question is whether he will lose out to the best of all other candidates, having their best day. The question is not "will a one week old baby qualify for the tournament and beat Tiger Woods?" So actually, you got your brain all crossed up, used bad reasoning, and then accused others of using bad reasoning. In investigating the unknown answer to the question "Is there someone else available that could play better than Sanchez at QB?" you start working your way down through the list starting at the most likely candidates, such as Tebow and McElroy, not Stephen Hawking. It is true that you might hold the opinion that you can "know" Sanchez is better without trying someone else, but you should stick to the evidence that makes you conclude that, not going on about Stephen Hawking. There is a body of work for all three quarterbacks on the Jets roster, and they are at different points in their career.
For the people comparing McElroy to Pennington: Why is that a bad thing? Our biggest problem is shitty completion % (as it leaves us with a lot of 3rd and longs), so giving someone who is being compared to the career completion percentage leader a shot wouldn't be such a bad thing. Just my opinion. I've always liked Chad Pennington, and I still do. If it wasn't for injuries, he'd probably still be our starting QB.
Pennington had 2 big problems. 1) He couldn't stay healthy. 2) After each shoulder surgery his arm became weaker and limited his arm strength which basically rendered him useless in situations where he had to make certain throws required in the NFL. McElroy appears to have post-surgery Pennington arm strength. That's not going to be good enough.
I agree, but by the same token, if Flacco is nothing without a supporting cast of high priced players, then Flacco is replaceable with anyone who can play with high priced players. The same holds true with Mark. He's not going to have a super star supporting staff and he can't get it done with average talent. So keeping him or getting rid of him is the same thing... He's an average QB making big money, we can find average for a lot less.
That's why I said IF he stayed injury-free. Honestly, arm strength is my least concern. I'd rather have someone who can make all the short throwws than have someone who can make the OCCASIONAL long throw. Realistically, you don't even get too many deep chances every game. I'd rather have someone who can consistently get 5, 6, 7 yard gains. Just like with a runningback, I'd rather have one who can consistently get 4 yards per carry rather than one who gets 2-3 yards and breaks out a big run.
You're not alone. I want McElroy to start once Sanchez plays out. McElroy reminds me of Pennington in terms of accuracy.
The thing is, if McElroy doesn't have arm strength, it shrinks the field for the defense. And without a respectable run game, it shrinks the field even more and McElroy might be accurate but he will be throwing at 2-3 defenders or have 2-3 defenders in his face. I would rather give McElroy a shot next year when we can surround him with a better offense.
Well, I think we could have a respectable run game if we benched Greene as well. I say give Tebow a shot at HB (whether he wants to or not), or even Powell. Powell seems to be one of those "consistent" guys to me. Doesn't make big, flashy plays, but consistently picks up yards and gets the job done. I don't think our OL is the problem with our run game, Greene just sucks at reading holes. D'Brick is a decent run blocker (has regressed, but is still pretty good), Slauson is okay, Mangold is top-notch, Moore is top-notch, and Howard seems to hold his own. I think we'd do well by using a lot of two TE formations. I dunno about anyone else, but I think Cumberland is THE most underrated player on our team. He's our best blocking TE and he seems to always be iin the right spotts to makes catches on third down. Obviously, other TE would be Keller when he gets back, and no need to explain there. Great receiver.
Didn't realize playing well and going 4-2 on the road in the playoffs was mediocre. If you can find better clutch, playoff play from any QB drafted after 2008, let me know.
He played well in 2 of those 6 games. The other games that we won or almost won were because of Greene and our D.
He played OK vs. Cincy.....OK/Good in SanDiego.....Good/Very Good in Indy.....Very Good vs. Indy.....Very Good vs. NE......Good vs. Pitt. JMHO.
McElroy should be given a chance and if he fails, he fails... but not giving him the opportunity to show how good of a "game manager" he is, is foolishness on the part of the Jets. I want the Jets to win, period! To do that they have to honestly evaluate all there options and not stick with a QB because he was annointed as our future way too soon. I'm afraid those of you who have defended him 'religiously' these past 3 years will be sorely disappointed when the inevitable happens.
Don't even waste your time with him. He speaks out his ass because he doesn't know football from foozball. He's talking about Steven Hawking and we're talking about who should be the starting Qb for the Jets.:rofl:
McElroy has been a good soldier. If the season goes really titsup, he should get a game or two. But id like to see Tebow first.
