yes it could be said of most players, but that is more of a testament to the lack of talent at the QB position in the NFL.
Mayfield played outside at Texas Tech and Oklahoma. If he winds up being as good as Brees we will have a lot to celebrate and will be very happy for the next 10-15 years.
If Allen becomes successful in the NFL, he would be bucking the ONE historical trend of having NOT cross that 60 CMP% mark in college. However, if Mayfield finds success he would be bucking FOUR historical trends: 1. short QBs 2. Spread QBs 3. Big 12 conference QBs 4. Heisman winning Qbs He would be an outlier 4 times over!
We should definitely run away from somebody that can change history. Let's get the guy that can throw a field goal on his knees for Youtube.
Josh Allen scores the highest of all qbs 37 on wonderlic no other qb scores in the 30s. And I thought josh Rosen was the smartest qb
The film shows me Allen is Goliath and Mayfield is David. We must draft this god. Oh and Allen is faster than Baker.
Look, I get the love for Allen. The guy is a physical marvel. It's hard not to fall in love with guys like him. He really is a monster, physically. I am just tired of falling in love with guys like that. He has never proven to be a real winner at any level above HS football. Baker Mayfield is a huge underdog, and I'm admittedly a sucker for underdogs, but the thing that really sells me on him is that he is a football junkie. It's all he cares about when he isn't being tackled face first into a concrete planter by cops. And the mammoth sized chip in his shoulder. This guy is hungry, he's mad, and he wants to embarrass people, and he will obsess to his grave about doing it. I don't give a shit if he's 5'3" and runs a terrible 40 yard dash, i want a guy that has HIS level of success and cares this much about the game, and plays his career like he's proving everyone wrong every time he puts on my favorite teams uniform. I'll take that guy over the workout warrior and his YouTube videos any day of the week, even if it's with 4 picks traded up to the #3. Because it's a smarter gamble than a stopwatch and a bunch of lame excuses.
I'm with you all the way. The guy had to walk on not once, but twice due to lacking respect and he made all of college football pay for it. The guy has an enormous axe to grind with the world, and won't sleep until he's king. You want players like that because they are the ones capable of setting the world on fire. "When will you stop underestimating me?" That said, there is a risk in an of that sort attitude, and I feel this article does a great job of articulating that risk: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/29/b...-wilson-joe-thomas-cleveland-browns-ryan-leaf However, considering how accurate he is, how athletic he is, how intelligent he is, it is a chance I'm absolutely willing to take. Baker Mayfield on the right team in the right system with the right coach is going to terrorize the NFL.
For some reason he looks and acts like a guy who's done a ton of steroids. Behavior disorders aren't good traits. Apparently he went to a fortune teller that said he would go to the Cardinals. What I like about that is Joe Namath was drafted by the Cardinals and went to the Jets. I go back and forth on Mayfield. On one hand he is super accurate and has a pretty good arm. On the other hand he looks and acts like a gym rat on roids. I think he can be successful on a team that can swap out his urine and can deal with psychopaths. The Patriot way...
Jets fans and their love affair with overachieving small white guys continues, Chrebet, Woodhead and now Baker.
I get where Mayfield is coming from. Just listen to people talk about Mayfield in relation to the other QBs in this class. Mayfield doesn't "measure up". When you are in his position, you better be a man of conviction and confidence because the criticism can eat you alive. This is, in my view, is his edge. It's a survival skill that he has needed to grow and depend on that is only a luxury for the other guys. There are examples of other great players that don't "measure up", but even with those examples the majority of people would still prefer to play it safe with a draft pick that more closely resembles a utopian body mold. Whoever picks Mayfield will get criticized and question. No matter what Mayfield accomplishes, he will always be questioned and doubted. Doubt will be Mayfields constant companion, it always has been. You better believe that someone in his shoes needs a fat pair to not succumb to that sort of relentless criticism. And honestly, when it comes to NY specifically, that courage and conviction is needed more than in most places. The other QBs may or may not have that thick skin, we've seen mixed results over the years with other QBs who have been here, but if you want to be star, it is necessary, and with what we know about Mayfield today is that he has it. Look at Eli Manning. The guy won two amazing Super Bowls and yet you would think he is Geno Smith with the way he gets beat up by the press and fans alike. He's severely underrated because he plays in NY. You know what though, one thing you can never take from Eli is that he has the courage to face his detractors and be consistent. Mayfield doesn't resemble Eli from a personality standpoint, but he has proven he can face the hate. Can the other guys? Maybe. But we don't know that, and if the Jets draft one that can't, then goodbye yet another era of opportunity for competitive Jets football.
The problem is we are talking about drafting an undersized, pumped up gym rat at 3. The two guys that Mayfield lovers hang their hat on are Brees and Wilson. Brees is a guy who was run out of SD and basically did nothing other than work on his craft and developed himself into a HOF QB. He was a quiet leader. Wilson, unlike Mayfield is built like a running back from the waist down. While he isn't exactly a team leader in the locker, he doesn't have a "chip" on his shoulder and has quietly gone from a guy who did practically nothing on the SB team to the outright leader on a team in serious decline. It's not about facing the hate. It's about getting along and learning your kraft. Being good enough to stick around while you develop. Unlike Eli, Mayfield under the big lights really didn't play great. He didn't carry his team over the finish line. He mostly beat up on crappy teams with an all star team. I discount all of that. I see a guy who might be a really good NFL QB. I would definitely take him in the 2nd round or late in the first in a weak draft class. I would never take a QB who doesn't have NFL measurables in the top 5. I wouldn't take Allen either and I'm starting to sour on Rosen based on desire. The chip and the attitude which guys think is a positive isn't a positive. It's meaningless drivel. The guy can play, he played with a team that overmatched the competition almost every Sunday and he's very undersized. He has a solid arm, is very accurate and shows a reasonable amount of toughness. Outside of Darnold, I wouldn't draft any of these guys in the top 10. That doesn't mean 1, 4, 8 or zero of them will develop into something special. Luke Falk or Kyle Lauletta might end up being the best QB in this draft? Lots of people think Rudolph has a chance to be great. To me he looks like a statue but I suspect he's going in the 1st round. This draft has desperation written all over it. I suspect the teams that get Chubb and Barkley are going to be very happy.
I kinda like furgeson. if we had signed cousins, i would have liked to draft furgeson in the 5th to replace petty on the roster. I think he has a good of a chance as mayfield to be a decent starter in the NFL.
