All things Revis

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  1. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Revis was an all-time Jet, but rebuilding teams, with salary cap difficulties, cannot afford the luxury of paying a cornerback 16 million dollars.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Then I guess we can either pray that his new deal next season is prior to the best performance he can provide, or that he doesn't ignore contract negotiations
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    They wouldn't have had to be a rebuilding team with salary cap difficulties if they had been managed correctly.

    He wasn't the kind of necessary cut that people comfort themselves into believing.
     
  4. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Been a Jet fan all my life, Revis is my favorite player

    It's a difficult situation

    Lets just say I hope he plays great but we win, is that fair?
     
  5. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    I'll be cheering for him not the Bucs

    I want the Jets to win but I hope Revis plays well

    I want him to reclaim his #1 spot as the best defender in the NFL

    Is that bad?
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Conflict of interest. You will be rooting for a player that can hinder the success of your supposed favorite team.

    I want Revis to continue on to greatness for my own reasons, but I hope he sucks in week one.

    And you would too if the above post has a shred of truth in it.
     
  7. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    Getting rid of Mevis had to be done. The price kept escalating way faster than his impact on the field.
     
  8. CBG

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    Would have loved to keep him but not at HIS price and not with the headache,,,of the holdout and contract distraction ! I would have also liked goof gotten more for him in theta debut we were up against it and had minimal bargaining power,,,,,all this said I think we will love this trade come next year when we have money to spend on players and our young guys return with a year of experience under their belts
     
  9. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    It's 1 game

    If he was in the AFC East I'd probably start hating him as I do all other AFC East players

    But to be honest the fact that we actually got rid of him and kept Sanchez around to start is mind boggling

    What type of message does that send to the fan base
     
  10. RubenDias

    RubenDias Well-Known Member

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    and i did read here something that its true Revis can only lock the nÂș one receiver , witch in the afc east its not primary, since tom brady can throw to any junkie on the field without even contest revis.
     
  11. 1968jetsfan

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    All about the rules of Salary cap....I loved Revis, definitely one of the best Jets of all time, but to me the ONLY position worth an average of 16 or so million a year is a top end QB. Now I fully expect the Bucs and Revis to renegotiate his contract after the 2013 season if he stays healthy and reclaims top CB honors, or even close to it. But for now Revis is 16M a year.
     
  12. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    not sure what you are getting at here.
    we couldn't afford revis and mo. what does his performancae have to do with that? if he performs he will get extended. its pretty simple
     
  13. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Getting rid of Revis was necessary. No Cb is worth $16 million. Not even close. The impact a CB makes cannot possibly justify tying up more than 1/8th of the salary cap for one player. As the NFL becomes more of an passing league and top passing teams going 4 and 5 wide on passing downs, having a player paid that much who can cover only one receiver is stupid cap management. Throw in that 1) he is coming off a serious injury ;2) he was a significant distraction every offseason and preseason with his incessant requests to renegotiate and the constant holdout threats; 3) he was never close to being a leader on an team that desperately needed his leadership; 4) he only cared about himself, never about the team ; and 5) he did note match up well with the Pats once Moss left. The Jets did the 100 % right thing. Better to build a strong front 7 and rush the passer than put all that money into a player who, as great as he was, head an impact on a game that does not justify his bloated contract.

    As a Jets fan , why root for him? He means nothing to us . I hope he gets burned on 9/8 by our pedestrian receivers. I hope he gives up 10 catches for 200 yards and two scores . No true Jets fan roots for a player on another team when that player plays the Jets. You root for the laundry. This is not the NBA.

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    You want the Jets to be pointed in the right direction , you need to see evidence that the new FO is making good decisions. Two key parts of that would be a good draft demonstrated by strong performances by the rookies and that the Revis trade was a better deal for the Jets than the Bucs. There is nothing positive for the Jets if Revis has a great first game and season while Milliner and Richardson struggle.
     
  14. Br4d

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    The reasons people will root for him, and some definitely will, are tied into the marketing of the players to the public. The Jets sold a lot of 24 jerseys and when people buy something like that they're also buying a totem interest in the player it represents. They're taking stock in Revis and using that very visible stock to boost themselves also when they wear it.

    Aside from that some people will root for him because they are kids and most kids root for players as much as teams.
     
  15. kyleleewatson

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    Soo what did you during last years playoffs/SuperBowl?
     
  16. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    under the new cba, players can not sign contract extensions until they have completed their third season
     
  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Not sure what JWWS did but I kind of watched the Super Bowl casually without taking a lot out of it. It was more notable for the power outage than anything else.

    I have a theory on sports patronage and aging that goes something like this:

    When we're very young we root for players because we identify with them somehow, not based completely on ability but more on that identification than anything else.

    My favorite athletes as a child and young teen were all left-handed hitters on the Mets. I was left handed and identified myself as a hitter. My absolute favorite player for probably 5 years was Ed Kranepool, who was a lefty first base man, just like me. Rusty Staub and Wayne Garrett followed closely behind Stead Ed in my affections.

    Why did I focus on these guys so closely? Because I was watching them hit and trying to incorporate bits of them into my hitting style. Obviously I should have picked better players to watch because I was always a somewhat mediocre hitter with a bit of power, just like them.

    So the next stage is when we're teenagers and young adults and man we really follow the sports we like at that point. We're usually very tribal in the teams we root for but things like rotisserie baseball, strat-o-matic baseball and fantasy football force us to branch out and really look at the players around the sport.

    We're spreading our affections from the few players we identified with as a child to a much larger group of players that we like based on their skills. This is where dedicated fans split into two groups, strictly tribal and connoisseurs of the game.

    The strictly tribal group aren't interested in fantasy stats or anything like that. They rarely know much about the players beyond their team and the divisional rivals although they're aware of superstars because those players get heavily promoted. They're just interested in their team and the tribal rooting interest they have in it. These guys just root for the laundry as a rule of thumb and they also tend to be among the best supporters of a team in terms of ticket-buying and merchandise sales. They're still young and they have a lot of disposable income and they spend it on their tribe.

    Connoisseurs of the game on the other hand still root for the home team but they have interests all over the place. They're less likely to buy merchandise because you don't buy the jersey of the star RB you drafted to play on your team that season in the Hoboken Football League. Even though you root for him you're less attached to the star RB on the Jets unless you happened to draft him. Your attentions are split. You're also probably less likely to attend games regularly because you have DirecTV at home for NFL Sunday Ticket so you can watch all your guys play in real time.

    Both the groups above are spending a lot of money watching professional football because they're young and fascinated and have the disposable income to do it.

    Then you get to a certain year. I like to call it 30 but for some people it is later than that. You settle down and begin to spend much less time with sports in general. You have family obligations. You have a job that you can't just breeze through every day. At that point a lot of things change. Your disposable income goes down even as your overall income is going up. There are many competing things vying for your dollars and your interest.

    This is where the tribal thing becomes much stronger again, even in the connoisseurs. You have less time and you need to concentrate it if you're going to get enjoyment out of the sport. This is where rooting for the laundry comes in. Because you've also seen enough players come and go to realize that an individual player usually isn't that important in the scheme of things.

    Curtis Martin was a great player for the Jets and I'd like to have him now but he never went to an AFC Championship game with the team (edit: whoops, forgot 1998, still he played for us long after that without ever getting back). At some point in the (hopefully near) future the Jets will go to a Super Bowl and we'll realize that while Darrelle Revis was a great player for the Jets he never went to a Super Bowl with them.

    As you get older rooting for the laundry is where it's at. Because players will come and go but only the laundry has the capacity to break your heart or make you overjoyed.
     
    #97 Br4d, Aug 23, 2013
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  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Correct. This is his third season.
     
  19. Jets Esq.

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    He might still demand that the Bucs give him some of that year's salary as a bonus (which they will not do, the Buckaneers don't give signing or roster bonuses) or tell them to guarantee part/all of that year's salary. Or he could still "threaten to hold out" like he did the last year with the Jets, and see if they will give him extra money. Right now he's in "prove it" mode because he's coming off the ACL tear, but if he plays Revis-like this year then next year he will want more money in some way or fashion, regardless of the contract he signed a few months ago. He looks at that as the minimum, not the maximum that the team has to pay him.
     
  20. Donttasemebro

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    I loved watching Barry Sanders play. He was head and shoulders better than anyone else out there. He was not a NYJ but i still loved watching him play.

    I'll always love watching Revis do what he does because he is that special but he's not worth what he's being paid. A salary like that for a non QB handicaps your ability to field a deep roster of quality players and that seems to be the real key to consistent winning.
     

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