Mulligan is special teams thumper. It's basically his job to fly down the field and take on lead blockers and special team backers. He's supposedly one of the strongest players on the team. What Westhoff said to him was just damn good coaching - that's Mulligan's job - that's the only thing he'll ever do in this league...so he better embrace this role. Clowney has a legitimate shot at making the team as a gunner. I could care less if he can or cannot catch a football right now. He's fast as hell and from the look of things, he's got the ability to make plays in punt coverage.
If Revis signs, K-Dub should be our punt returner. I think Joe McKnight still has a shot at returning kicks.
Sadly, the last few years of picks having to come in and start right away has given many over inflated impressions of how good rookies should be in season one of thier NFL career. We have very few holes to fill. Its part of the theme on Hard Knocks. Fringe guys are not going to make this team. Vlad and McKnight are developmental guys with big upside, they earn spots on future potential alone. Guys like Woodhead, Washington, and the little 5'6" return man have no place on this team. The are decent special teamers at best and we don't have the luxery of keeping one or two of them around. Conner is going to be a 5th RB special teams guy. No way Ryan does not let him make the team. Laury will be the guy that is fringe depth and a special teams ace. Many of the fringe favorites will be looking for work elsewhere this season, barring additional injuries.
You keep on saying the same thing. I don't think anyone is saying we want Washington instead of Mcknight but in addition to McKnight. Our reasoning is basically explained in your post. McKnight will most likely be redshirted this year, meaning LT and Shonn will get the load of anywhere from 20-40 carries per game. Lt is getting old and SHonn has never been a starter. Washington gives us another body to put out there and take some of the hits. I understand he hasn't looked great in preseason, but with our O-line and the amount of weapons we have on this team you do not have to be great. Hold on to the football, pound the rock and pick up 3-4 yards. Washington can do that and that is why I want him to make this team. It will keep our important rbs fresh for the playoffs.
Then why wouldn't they try clowney at the punt return? A guy with his speed, good hands...id rather him there than as a gunner. The good thing with McKnight is that if he is a legit punt returner, no need to fill an extra space with Taylor since McKnight will be on roster
i know that insanity but im saying i'd rather have him return punts if anything then at any other special teams position. This guy may get down to make some punt returners make fair catches but i dont seem him as a dominant tackler or big hitter
They're playing for the same roster spot, and McKnight is the better talent...by far. Greene and LT will have to carry this team. I think McKnight will get around 5 to 7 touches a game and John Conner should get some as well. We're going to pass a lot more than people seem to realize. The last sentence, the one in bold, would make sense if Washington showed the ability to get yards. He can't do that against third stringers. There's absolutely no reason to put a guy on the field if he can't be productive. No, he can't do that. He's never done it before and he never will. I'm not saying he has to be great. He just has to be productive and he isn't.
Westhoff on kickoffs got him down the middle of the field. I dont see Clowney as a guy whos gonna be busting up wedges on Kickoffs
If the staff thought he could return punts, he be practicing with the return specialists. He's not and that says a lot. Do you understand what a gunner does? It his job to get down there as fast as possible to force the fair catch or the short return. Wallace Wright wasn't a big hitter either. He was consistent and he got the job done. That's all Clowney needs to do. ...I've come to the conclusion that you know absolutely nothing about football.
Agreed that it's basically a redshirt season for both guys. Next year I expect Vlad to take over at right tackle after a year of coaching and i expect that Mcknight will replace Tomlinson. In the short term I like the idea of keeping Washington because if something happens to Greene they need another running back. With that being said finding a running back is probably one of the easiest positions to fill. So he probably won't make the team unless Westoff loves him.
I agree with Electric Washington shouldn't earn a RB spot bc the guy had a big hit on special teams that caused a fumble. McKnight is a work in progress and will be able to develop for a year or two before seeing any large numbers of carries (a la Shonn Greene)
The statement in bold turns the entire argument for Chauncey Washington into complete shit. If one of our backs goes down, we'll go out and get another one...one that's better than Washington.
I really do not know where you are getting that he cannot do this. I think he has been productive enough in preseason. And they are not neccessarily playing for the same roster spot. I understand it isn't very common to take 4 rbs but neither is it common to carry 4 Quarterbacks. If he can continue to make hits like he made on that punt return he can make this team based on the fact that we need another rb and he is good enough on special teams to make the cut.
First time Clowney doesnt get down field quick enough or misses a tackle to allow a big return that should have been a short gain, you guys will all be here saying "why the fuck do we have Clowney down there blah blah blah"
ripped me a new asshole bc a guy who doesnt know me thinks i dont know football?? umm ok like i said.. when clowney screws up everyone here will be saying he shouldnt have made the team and yea i do agree that Washington shouldnt earn a spot over McKnight. If they dont show that play on HK, no1 is even considering a spot for him. The fact that Rex was so amped about it makes people overthink it
We're not carrying four backs. We're carrying five: Greene, Tomlinson, McKnight, Richardson, and Conner. There's just not enough room for Chauncey Washington. What do you consider productive? He had under 2.5 yards a carry against Carolina's third stringers. We're also not going to carry a sixth back to play special teams. He won't make this team over a proven special teams backer like a Lance Laury or a Kenwin Cummings. He's just not as valuable as you're making him out to be.
Shonn was a rookie and had a major role last year, Chauncey was with the Jags in 08 so that comparison makes no sense. He's already entering his 3rd season.
could have sworn in my quote u put there i said about a gunner getting down field. so thanks for restaing what i said
