The basics are tough RIGHT NOW. Let's see what happens in September. Hey I hope Sanchez comes out and plays like a top 10 qb. I just don't see him ever getting it. He's never been able to protect the football and has been getting worse in all areas for about a season and a half now.
the offense has been in a tailspin since sometime in the 2011 season. instead of getting a guy that could actually right the ship they got sparano, and, with help from an outrageous injury bug, the offense went to complete shit. what is so hard to understand about that context that makes people blame one man on a 52 man roster for a total systemic failure. its not as though guys were putting up huge numbers and sanchez would just turn the ball over, nothing was happening. we were shit. you cant blame one piece on the pile of shit for stinking up the room...
If you think Mark will be backing up Smitty come September, then please pass the peace pipe you're huffing. If you think Mark will be backing up Smitty after the bye (with 6 of the easiest wins we could hope for on the calendar), I'm all in.
Geno should stay on the sideline to begin the season, possibly the whole season. Let sanchez shit the bed, he'll be the scapegoat and be exiled, get us a good draft pick, then we can enter "The Era of Eugene" in the 2014 season.
From a pure quarterbacking stand point, Id say Geno had a better season statistically... Sanchez of course had the luxury of a great defense that gave up on average less than 8 ppg (while WVU gave up 30 ppg), so he in turn had a better season from a team perspective. Sound familiar?
Sorry. Smith had a higher completion pct. but Sanchez had more YPA, and a highr QB rating. (barely) No team stats there. And, Smith had Austin..a pretty dynamic playmaker.
Sitting on the sideline will do nothing for him especially watching Sanchez This isn't the same NFL unless your watching a legit NFL QB then you can learn something but Sanchez will show him a ton of what not to do
Sanchez does a lot of negative things that have nothing to do with the system or players around him. That's something you guys need to recognize. When he just throws the ball up for grabs off his back foot right to Kerry Rhodes the first play of the game ... that type of play is all sanchez. There are many examples, I'll leave it at that.
Okay, way to ignore literally every other stat. LOL pretty funny Hobbes. Way to go ahead and cherry pick some stats. Every other category Smith is much better than Sanchez besides YPA. 5% higher completion percentage, 1000 more yards, 8 more TDs, and 4 less interceptions while having over a 150 more pass attempts. And please dont use passer rating, because it works both ways- Sanchez has been in the bottom tier of QBs almost every single year in the NFL.
The thing I want to know is can Smith win big time games. Sanchez more often than not showed up on the grandstage and delivered. I dont want to have Smith be a decent player in the regular season and shit the bed in the playoffs. At least Sanchez has a proven track record when it comes to the post season. You never know. Sanchez could light it up this season. Still support Sanchez.
Primetime 'big stage' games this season: Houston: Threw a red zone interception to go from a possible 14-14 game to a 17-7 one. Threw another interception to end the game. New England: We all know... Tennessee: With our season on the line, Sanchez proceeds to throw FOUR interceptions. Fumbles after the worst punt in the world to end the game. That's from this season alone. I'm sure there are a lot of examples from last year of him withering under the big stage.
im also pretty sure the 2 biggest prime time big time games were losses for old sancho. you know the ones after the afc divisional round playoff championship games. aka the drooper bowl.
I know its being unrealistic, but I have already taken 2012 and the latter part of 2011 and completely erased it from my mind. As stupid as it sounds and probably is, that is just how I feel I should handle that. Also I ment specifically the post season. Im sure there is something negative to say about that too, but I will leave it at that.
Any QB asked to do as little as Sanchez was generally asked to do for the Jets in the playoffs has a random chance of having the team perform well enough to win with him at the helm. If Rex's defense allows a slightly above average number of points to the Bengals in 2009 and doesn't get two turnovers the Jets are one and done that year. If they give up two TD's to Peyton Manning and the Colts in the Dome in 2010 the Jets are one and done that year as well. Seriously, if the Jets are good enough that Geno Smith can throw 46 passes with a TD and an Int in the playoff openers in back to back years and still win the games then we haven't lost anything. Mark Sanchez has never had a big, put the team on his back game, in his entire career, regular or post-season. There's not a single win that the Jets have gotten that an efficient performance by an average QB wouldn't have gotten them also.
The problem with your statement is that if Sanchez stinks up the place, what team will give us a good draft pick for a bottom feeder of QBs? If he does moderately well we could get a decent pick for him. But teams know if they wait it out we will cut the guy sooner or later!
Sanchez definitely is not going to bring the Jets a good pick. The question is whether the Jets can get a late pick back for him from a team wanting another option at an unsettled QB position next year. I tend to think he has no trade value because of his contract but you never know.
are you for real? Sanchez played ok in the game vs NE. But when did he ever put the team on his shoulders and win big games for us? his defense and great run game won games inspite of him. Has he ever elevated the play of those around him in the regular or post season? I support all Jets players but do not care which QB plays for us as long as he wins! You Sanchezites are only concerned with your hero being the starting QB, win or lose. If you do not win in the regular season, you do not get to go to the playoffs. Just saying.....!
I agree. No way do I want to end up like St Louis and pass on the chance to take a big time prospect because we have a good one. If the Jets are in position for a top QB in 2014 then they take him (if these QBs are suppose to be as good as advertised) regardless who starts in 2013. Sent from my Galaxy S4 via Tapatalk
Way to be a Genomaniac. Thats not cherrypicking stats. Sanchez did play on a better team, but he also played against better teams. One guy averages more YPA (and qb rating)without a top draft pick as a weapon, (or does Tavon Austin suck now because it doesnt suit your argument?) so you have Smith, and Austin, against inferior competition.,,,yet....Sanchez has the better season. 400 yards in the Rose Bowl? http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tavon-austin-1.html http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/geno-smith-1.html Now, i could be off on the math here, but roughly 1/3 of Smiths season, was compiled by Austin? Completions and yardage. And he averaged what, 11 and change? No knock, Brady and Welker rode that to titles. But....those arent cherrypicked stats. There are those that would also argue, that Smith....folded down the stretch. (to be fair, I dont buy that...I think its a function of the offense, but you dont buy that when the argument applies to the QB with 4 road playoff wins, one of five fastest to thirty wins, no2 red zone qb in 2011....etc)
