Adam Gase Thread (Merged)

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  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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  2. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    Damien Williams and Matt Moore also stuck up for him. It's not just one guy. And the only ones that played for him that spoke badly was Landry and Ajayi. Landry is a diva. Also has been.. he has talent but how did that go this year? Ajayi's a joke.

    I dislike Gase because his play calling, each time he's gone far it's because of a hof qb or a team he didn't build. I don't think he knows how to plan for the talent he has or develop talent well. But this narrative that his players don't like him is a crock of shit.
     
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  3. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Either Gase will give us reason to love him or hate him this season. I didn't care for his initial season at all but everyone deserves a chance to correct mistakes they made. Now if Season 2 looks like season 1, lets have a fair conversation about Gase's future or lack of one in New Jersey.
     
  4. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree. I don't expect a deep playoff run or superbowl, but if the team still looks like crap Gase has gotta go. But to me we have to know, we're already in it for another year, let's hope it improves. If not then we know Gase is what most of us thought.
     
  5. Attackett

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    Just about the fairest statement I’ve seen on Gase so far and I agree completely.
     
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  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    This pretty much debunks the bullshit 'players hate him' narrative. If someone wants to provide proof otherwise with actual facts then I'm all ears.

    Former players + coaches

    [QUOTE =Jakeem Grant]

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports...html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

    [/QUOTE]

    Here are the infamous Jarvis Landry quotes.

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    Looks like Matt Moore just sent the Jets a job application. Expect Williams to next year.
     
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    Except it was season 4 for him and he's still showing the same tendencies. Don't hold your breath for his improvement.
     
  9. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Here are the infamous Jarvis Landry quotes.





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    Lots of effort put into this post. Kudos.

    That said, you'll find very few players who badmouth a coach or team publicly, so all this is taken with a grain or two of salt.

    Still, I hope these players sentiments are the majority and the team plays hard for him. More than that though is I really hope he does things to deserve it.
     
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  10. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    This was most interesting to me..

    “There's only one other coach that's been like that for me, and that was Adam Gase. [McVay] and Adam Gase are probably the two smartest coaches I've been around when it comes to planning and preparation and trying to put their matchups together and their team in the best position."

    I think we saw last year that Gase is excellent at game planning. He needs to get better at adjusting and I don’t know if he is just too stubborn or he can’t make in game adjustments. This to me is all that is keeping him from being a great HC and will ultimately determine his future.

    All the other blanket statements like his players hate him or his play calling sucks or my fave he doesn’t use Bell correctly are just that, BS.

    Get better talent & get better at in game adjustments and he’ll be fine but both have to happen or Jets will likely be looking for another new HC after the season.
     
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  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Matt Moore? You mean the guy who the Chiefs had to coax to out of retirement when Chad Henne fractured his ankle and didn't really have much interest in playing this season?

    Yeah, I don't think he had any motive in his comments. But you usually know better after all.
     
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  12. Jake

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    Gase is a beast who has this entire fan base on strings. Never seen anything like it.

    He deserved to come back for year 2 the moment he had shitty ass Maccagnan fired. This cannot be stated enough times.
     
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    Has the fanbase on strings as he makes our offense worse than it was last year with more talent and a QB who already had a season under his belt. Gase really got us!
     
  14. BroadwayAaron

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    Saying that calling Gase’s playcalling awful is BS, is pure BS.
     
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    Hey man, let's all blame the guy who just got here and not those who assembled that shitty offense. Pretty sure it was Maccagnan and Heimerdinger who completely neglected the offense the last 5 offseasons.
     
  16. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    I was tough on Gase at first.

    I wanted him fired as bad as anyone throughout that 1-7 start.

    But then I began to realize something throughout our final 8 games.

    Despite injuries.

    No NFL team was injured more than our Jets.

    We still finished 6-2.

    And the team under Gase refused to give up. They never quit on their head coach.

    They not only competed and faught hard under Gase, but they began to win.

    And Sam Darnold improved upon his rookie season within each and every statistical category under Gase.

    I was an IDIOT for wanting to see Gase ran out of town early on.

    1.) Is it Gase's fault Darnold got Mono?

    2.) Is it Gase's fault our O-Line has been a disaster since we lost our brick of gold in D'Brickishaw and Mangold and just rated this year as the NFL's worst O-Line. Dead last.

    3.) Is it Gase's fault that our O-Line was so makeshift that not even Le'Veon Bell could run through holes that weren't there? He still caught 60+ receptions under Gase out of the backfield as Darnold's security blanket and check down option.

    4.) Is it Gase's fault that his 2nd year QB literally had no time in the pocket (more often than not) in order for his plays to develop, while we all harped all over his play calling ability?

    5.) Is it Gase's fault he inherited an offense that's historically speaking lacked an offensive attack for a very long time now?

    It's kind of difficult to call plays when during your 1st year with a new team your O-Line can not run block and/or create holes for your RB and your O-Line can not pass protect in order for his QB's passing plays to develop.

    Etc. Etc.

    It was a pleasure to see my offense under Sam Darnold under crappy circumstances and less than ideal situations finally start putting up 7-0 leads with opening drive TD's.

    Give Gase an O-Line and a true #1 WR opposite Robby Anderson and I guarantee Gase's scripted 1st quarter drives will turn into and develop into 2nd half/4th quarter TD's.

    Even the great Bill Belichick is a career loser and below .500 head coach without Brady throughout his 5-6 years without Tom Brady his QB. 51-65 without Brady. 14 games below .500 after a big sample size of 106 games but yet 136-39 with Brady as his QB.

    I'm not comparing Gase to an all time great Belichick but it is very hard to win without a QB, right? and in Gase's case it was due to mono.

    Well. Just ask Bill Belichick himself about how life in the NFL was and would've been without Tom Brady; below .500 career losing head coach would be the answer.

    Gase is 30-34 after 4 years with two shit Franchises and 1 playoff appearance. .469%.

    Belly was only 31-33 after 4 years and 1 playoff appearance.

    Belly's 6th year as head coach and 1st year in N.E? 5-11 disaster.

    Belly was only 41-55 heading into his SEVENTH SEASON before he started to reach ANY SUCCESS (but here we were, trying to run a young head coach out of town asap/automatically/instantly).

    Gase deserves a fair chance and I'm sorry but giving him a crap o line the worst Offensive Line in all of football along with more injuries than any other team during only his first 8 games was not a fair chance; not even Bill Belichick would've won (and didn't win while with Cleveland) under those scenarios.
     
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  17. BroadwayAaron

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    Im absolutely not blaming all of our failures on Gase. I’m blaming him for having more talent to work with than a guy the Jets found backpacking up a mountain and made him
    OC yet having a worse offense. Also blaming him for completely wasting one of the most dynamic pass catching RBs in the league. Also blaming him for being a bad playcaller which has been an issue for him since long before this year.
     
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  18. Jedi mind tricks

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    Here are the infamous Jarvis Landry quotes.





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    Great info but how many of the guys gushing over Gase want to come here and play for or coach with him?
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Great info but how many of the guys gushing over Gase want to come here and play for or coach with him?[/QUOTE]

    How many are available? I don't see Jordan Cameron coming out of injury retirement or Von Miller being traded for a 4th rounder.

    Do you really want Ndamukong Suh here at age 33?
     
  20. Ralebird

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    You never think anyone has a motive to what they say if it favors Gase.

    If you think I know better that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
     

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