Adam Gase Thread (Merged)

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  1. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    He got paid before playing for Flores. That as well makes no sense. I'm not saying all the players everyone listed are better without Gase or were bad because of Gase. But I do think Parker is a strong case.

    Ajayi was a typical RB. He had a few good years, but rbs can do that. Tannehill is riding Henry, any thought otherwise is ludicrous. Landry is the OBJ drama queen of slot corners.

    But Parker I think is on Gase. He was injured 7 game, less than half a year. He was failed by the coaching staff.

    Drake and William's I think need time to determine. Both had ok year but neither are top 10 rbs in my book at this time.

    Tunsil I as well think got better this year, but he was ok already. It wasn't a huge jump. More like a player developing.
     
  2. I mirror your sentiments.

    Apologies to the TGG community for my abrasive tones. It’s just become irrational overkill.
     
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  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Dude what are you talking about, Parker got an extension this season! Just stoppp the nonsense.
     
  4. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...hins-devante-parker-contract-status-extension
    He signed a contract extension for 2 years at the end of last year. Already got paid. Then they signed another this year that' was 4 years because he did well. Fact remains he was already paid before playing for Flores but proved his worth.

    Before you start telling someone to add stop do some research.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    So did he or did he not get paid under the Flores regime? Go back re-read your posts.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    you can say that again

    they hate Gase so much, they are way too emotional
     
  7. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    My post said he got paid before Flores. Which he did. Just because he earned a better contract during the year means he did well, not that he wasn't paid before hand. This isn't Trumaine... he also played well after the contract extension. He got an extension before and after... 2 times in one year. It happens when you play that well. Of course it could be the reason is they feel he didn't get a fair shake before so put him on a prove it deal to see if it was him or the coaching. And he proved it.

    Again this is one instance and I dont agree with the all Gase's old player play better without him. I listed early the other "better" players and reasons I don't think they count. Not ever player-coach combination works out. Even some of the best coaches fail to get the best from good players. Then they move and have better luck.

    I'm not sure this can be held against Gase so much because it happens everywhere. He did help develop slot receivers well. And he used Geiski wrong but that could be for the same reason Bell blocked all year, who else was going to do it?
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    No he didn't because Flores was hired before the extension. Check your dates.
     
  9. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    Look back. It says before playing for Flores in both my original posts. Did he play for Flores before March 12th? He was signed on March 12th but I don't think he played in March. Last I checked there is not practice or training or game in March... maybe I'm wrong?
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Nope, got the contract extension in Dec 2019, Flores was hired well before then. Parker was committed, stayed healthy and put it all together. Kudos to him.
     
  11. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    His first contract thi syear was signed March 12. You really need to do your research.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/12/14/devante-parker-dolphins-extension-four-year-deal

    He signed a deal in March to replace his 5th year option. They then gave him a true extension in December. Regardless, they truly committed to him in December 2019 when they gave him a 4 year deal. STILL, the contract he signed in March was AFTER Flores was hired (Feb. 4, 2019). So me thinks you need to do your research. If you are going to google, google all the way man.
     
  13. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    He was completely healthy under Gase at times and still didn’t play because he was deemed not even worthy enough to suit up and be on the 53 man roster.
     
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    that's not true on many levels. multiple false claims in one sentence, tough to do
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He also had dieting and maturity issues. Clearly, the guy was on his last legs, finally decided to take his career seriously and he's now benefiting from it. The guy showed his potential with Gase there.
     
  16. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    gotcha.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/21/miami-dolphins-devante-parker-inactive-adam-gase-agent-response

    Very liberal use of the word "clearly" here.
     
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  17. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    well here's the deal dude, so you can inform yourself.

    If someone is inactive - they are still on the 53 man roster. so that was your 1st false statement.
    secondly, regardless if you want to believe Parker's agent or not, we are talking about 1 game, not multiple games (another false statement you made)...

    we are also talking about a game in which Parker obviously wasn't "completely healthy" as he tried and left the previous week with a quad injury.
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    It is Parker's agent's job to get his client money. Injuries will always hurt players' chances of making money. It is a coaches job to have guys he can rely on.
     
  18. J-Raw24

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    You are mixing it up. I have been through this already you are minding me of the fire Gase now crowd by just repeating conversation without paying attention. He signed a contract in March which was a prove it deal. Obviously the FO believed in him even tho in 3 years under Gase, and with on 7 games missed due to injury, he didn't perform. Keep in mind at this point he hadn't even practiced for Flores. Yes 9 months later he signs a bigger deal, but he had just been paid 9 months earlier. At no point before or after the last extension did any of what you said make sense. I shouldn't have to explain this 30 times because you can't think.
     
  19. J-Raw24

    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    He missed 7 games in Gase due to injury. Less than half a year. I already posted an article showing the break down.
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Any contract changes were done after Flores was hired (Prove it deal or not). At the end of the day, his contract changes / extensions had nothing to do with Adam Gase.
     
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