Adam Gase Thread (Merged)

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The big pump in that entire thread is Forte falling off from 1,846 yards to 1,287 yards from scrimmage.

    Definitely a question I'd want an answer to as well. But if you look closer Forte played in 16 games in his big season as compared to 13 games in the aforementioned Gase season. The yards per game saw a slight dip from 115.375 to 99 yards.

    What it also fails to acknowledge is that year one has 16 games from both Alshon Jeffery and Martellus Bennett as well as 13 from Brandon Marshall. Year two (with Gase) has 11 games from Bennett, 9 from Jeffery and Marshall is off the roster at this point. So it's a much different looking offense obviously.

    CJ Anderson goes for 1,100 yards from scrimmage in only 7 starts and makes the Pro Bowl in 2014. To be fair I don't know what the break down was as he played in 15 games but he competed with two other runningbacks for starts that year. Knowshon Moreno had his only 1,000 yard year under Gase.

    Kenyan Drake and Frank Gore were in a timeshare in 2018. Drake finished with only a hundred more yards from scrimmage this year than he did with Gase in 2018. Tannehill misses six weeks in the middle of the season and we're really wondering why the offense was discombobulated under Brock Osweiler?

    Ajayi is traded after being a douchebag and his career never rebounds so the Dolphins win by getting a pick for someone who becomes a nobody.

    A lot of nothing statistics that were strictly used for fantasy purposes without looking at situation and games played.
     
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  2. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Agreed. Should've been gone a while ago. Just interested in seeing how people compare the two thats all.
     
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  3. Yes it tells you what i think of your constant whining & bashing. Youre a broken record w an unbearable case of cognitive dissonance. Youd rather be right about Gase than see the team succeed.
     
  4. BroadwayAaron

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    This is a very dumb opinion. I’m a season ticket holder. I’m there 8 times a year and sometimes 10 for preseason. I’m at camp in Florham Park. I’m a diehard. I would do almost anything to see the team win even if fucking Bin Laden was the coach. That assertion is nothing more than resorting to a personal attack because you can’t come up with a single answer to the question.

    so for a fourth time, leaving out the insults and hyperbole, what about Gase’s resume says we should trust that he can be even adequate at this job?
     
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  5. J-Raw24

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    Ok tunsil was a draft not a trade. Parker was injured 2 years. The year before Gase got there and the year after gase got there. The rest of the time Gase failed to use him. The Gase benched him last year, Parker wasn't hurt, Gase benched him. Most people thought parker was a bust, because at time he looked good and other time he look very bad. Gase failed parker.

    You never see Gase except the bench. Other coaches you see on the sideline making calls and talking with everyone. Not Gase. You can say I don't watch him 100% of the time yes. But it doesn't change that he isn't coaching the team like a head coach.
     
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  6. Clearly not a dumb opinion bc there you are again... a broken record. Absolutely obsessed with Adam Gase.

    You know what the sad thing is? i don't even LIKE Gase. I'm just absolutely fucking sick of your constant whining. And scroll back. I'm not alone. Far from it.
     
  7. BroadwayAaron

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    And here you are again, not being able to answer the question. If you’re so sick of this convo why don’t you just answer the question and end it? It’s that simple. So maybe the fifth times a charm...

    Rather than firing off insults to deflect, what about Gase’s resume says he can be a successful NFL head coach?
     
  8. I'm not engaging your bullshit. Get a life nut job,.I'l take the suspension or banning. I don't care anymore. You're insufferable.
     
  9. J-Raw24

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    I think he would be a great slot receiver coach.
     
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    So rather than just simply answer the question, you’d prefer to insult me and pretend it’s bullshit than I’m asking you to justify your opinion. That says a whole lot more about you than me. Keep up the routine, I truly dont care. Just know you aren’t getting one over in anyone by dodging questions and replacing answers with insults. That’s what kids do. Kids and presidents.
     
  11. Ahh but you DO care. The second I hit you w. the same dose of bullshit you've been spouting off the entire playoffs, you couldn't stand it.

    I've made several points to provide hope for Gase. about 30 pages back..perhaps scroll back through pages upon pages upon pages of you fixating on any singular notion of negativity you can possibly provide about Gase..who by the way..AGAIN...i don't even LIKE..and you'll find plenty of compelling points of contention.

    The point is..you aren't the least bit of objective or reasonable. It's the same crap over & over again.

    "Lets see..which playoff team has former Gase players so that I can find any possible fragment of improvement since they aren't under Gase anymore". Maybe not "Kids or presidents"worthy but bitter,lonely, obsessive sociopath-esque.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

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    They traded up for Tunsil, it was a draft trade. So Parker was hurt along with the majority of the players on that team.

    Also I recommend reading this - https://miamiherald.typepad.com/dol...-get-devante-parker-to-be-a-professional.html
     
  13. J-Raw24

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    Ok but you don't get it. He didn't miss that many games under Gase due to injury.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/1997517001
    He missed 11 total in his career prior to this year. 4 in 2015 before gase got here. 5 in 2017 with his hamstring. And 2 in the playoff run in 2016 (Gase first year). This isn't like Tannehill missing 28 games in 3 years. He missed 7 with Gase due to injury. Every other game he missed was because Gase benched him. Gase couldn't figure him out so he benched him. His low stats were on Gase.
     
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    I get it, that link I provided only adds to the character issues behind Parker. He wasnt in shape, had maturity issues and had injury concerns. If you aren't buying in you aren't producing.
     
  15. J-Raw24

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    Funny he bought right into Flores. I don't think it was him not buying in. There was no confrontation between him and Gase. There weren't reports like with ajayi of disputes l. Maybe he didn't take care of himself year one or two like he should have but this was 4 years, 3 with Gase. And they resigned him. He looked very good at times, usually when he was off script. Go back and watch the games. I honestly think he was just not well coached. His relationship with Gase was fine. See I dislike Gase, but I don't buy that his players don't like him or don't buy into him.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I'm sure the anti-Gase crowd will tell you that Gase being a douchebag was the reason why Parker was an immature baby and Ajayi was bitching about not getting 30 carries in a win.
     
  17. J-Raw24

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    I'm sure we could all jump to conclusions but I figured you knew me better than that by now. Yes I don't like Gase. But I have yet to see any 100% proof his player didn't like him or as 101 stated "didn't buy in". The post he had of Park was referring to the beginning of the kids career when he didn't know how to take care of himself. There were no articles out there about Parker not liking Gase or buying into his scheme. With the exception of Ajayi I don't think anyone playing for Gase has openly disliked Gase.
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It wasn't directed at you. It was more directed at the other irrational Gase criticism in this thread.
     
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    Gotta get paid man. I don't need to go back and watch the games, he had potential in prior years and put it together this year.
     
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    I don't like Gase much, but some of the stuff I am reading is just irrational.
     

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