I have no idea if the events you described are wrong or mistaken. I do know that the questions you posed were based on third hand knowledge and as such seem to be kind of hyperbolic in that event. The Jet's PR department doesn't have to create a burner account to prop up Gase. It's their job to do that and they have TWO accounts that feature info about the Jets on a regular basis, including Gase's Press Conference after every game. Did the Jet's PR folk create a burner account to disseminate disinformation about the Jets, Gase, Mehta or anything else connected to the issue? Frankly, we have no idea. However getting from we have no idea to the questions you posed is again, kind of over the top. That's what I was reacting too and I'd have reacted differently if there was real evidence that this had happened.
His averages the two years prior to Gase: 4126 yards 64% 26 TD 12 INT Gase’s first year, averaged out to 16 games from 13: 3686 yards 67% 23 TD 15 INT In no way, shape or form was Tannehill having a better season in 2016. So the year that the QB whisperer stepped in, Tannehill got worse in every area other than completion percentage because Gase’s offense involves so many passes at or behind the LOS. Maybe talking down helps you think you’re making a great point but it doesn’t actually work... I fully comprehend that he was injured for a majority of the time, but that also means Gase wasn’t working with him for a full year after the one full year he actually did work with him... and he got worse. So what exactly is your point? Nothing lined up with the notion that Gase made Tannehill better.
You might not like to see what he writes but until there is evidence that Mehta has made up anything your point is not valid. Have all the suspicions you want but understand that they are simply opinions - unfounded opinions. And, for the record, I called Mehta the "messenger."
Ah. What a surprise. A cop out when asked to support your opinion. As per usual with any debate with you.
Interesting you left out Yards per attempt and Adjusted yards per attempt which both went up along with QBR which was the highest in Gase's first year when he was healthy with Gase than any year under Philbin. You also left out he was 8 and 5 in 13 starts vs. 6 and 10 along with never having a winning season prior to Gase's first year. FYI Jay Ajayi had a career year in Gase's first year which was also the year Tannehill had a wining record. Guess which running back is having a career year in TN this year. Guess which running back our GM signed in the offseason who looks slow as molasses and didn't have a career year. Why don't you give me Tannehill's projected 16 game numbers for this year. It makes your argument even better. I'll bet it's as good as Culppers years in MN.
How many times here must I state that players, like employees everywhere, when asked about their boss generally say complimentary things? I've seen all those quotes and a dozen more but their small number and trite verbiage simply ring as "damning with faint praise" to me. Your mileage, of course, will vary.
Philbin was a terrible coach, so if Gase is comparable to Philbin (or even a little better), that isn't saying much.
Here's some more from former players and coaches for funsies. Here's the big Jarvis Landry comments, which is about the only comments that anyone can point to against Gase. The first are where he somewhat walked back his initial comments below.
You can say it all you want. That doesn't make it not a cop out instead of doing some research to try to support your baseless claims. You continue to make unfounded arguments based on nothing at all deeper than trying to read in between the lines of comments that are straight and to the point. That didn't stop Jarvis Landry from criticizing the coach or Jay Ajayi. Former players are not scared of it. Jay Ajayi who became an absolute loser after traded by the way and Landry who got into an altercation with his coach on the sidelines several times this season. A real 'locker room guy' I'm sure.
I never paid attention to Gase while he was the HC in Miami...so I can't speak to his in-game performance while he was there. For a so-called "offensive genius"...it's confounding that he seems to have no feel for the game as it's being played on the field. He's in love with his game plan but not the game itself.
It makes it my opinion. Why is that so hard for you to understand and accept? You don't have to agree, I don't expect you to. We look at the same words and actions and come up with different outlooks but you somehow think the words of Landry, Ajayi, et al, ad nauseum and whatever other pro-Gase comments you can find are important; I don't.
There are definitely players who lile him and those who hate him. After a year most the Jets seem to be still on board. Not sure this is still part of the argument. I don't like his play calling or use of personnel, but until we get more pieces that argument can't be solved. As for his players not liking him until one of the guys on the team come forward and say it thrre is no real way to press thay. I have aeen ex-players and other football minds that don't like him. Honestly the argument means nothing atm... He is getting at least 8 more regular season games. No matter who like or dislikes. Seems a waste of time to gripe about firing him rather than have an intelligent conversation about what he is doing with the team. It the offseason, no games, no training camp... the only thing important at the moment is Bell, Anderson, Jenkins etc... do we keep our let go.... oh and the draft.... Everypne should quit whining about gase (good or bad) and think of the future, with or without Gase.
Because we're on a message board to debate our opinions. An opinion can be wrong you know. But instead of debating, once again, you end up deflecting from the topic when proven wrong. Typical.
Gase doesn't have enough HC experience with a decent roster to be compared to anyone that matters. All I know is the NY Jets have had 10 years of really crappy GM's running the draft. Payton Manning suggested Adam Gase as a good mentor for Sam. Sam is better today than he was when the season started. The Jets front office might be much better today than the day Gase was hired. Time will tell. The shit team that was assembled by years of incompetent GM's that mostly washed out at the start of the season hung together and there's a group of guys who are worth keeping to build around that gave it a go when the wheels were failing off. Gase is the Jets HC. I don't know if he's going to be good or another wash out. I don't have to have a preconceived notion that he sucks based on getting this roster to 7 and 9 and getting Sam looking like a potential franchise QB. Based on the way the season started that's actually proof that at worst the guys that matter are buying in. Tannehill who Gase loved and believed in got a shot on a decent team with a good roster and is thriving. That's a plus not a minus for Gase. That's all I'm saying. What will be will be. The hate for Gase is mostly the result of Jets fans being tied to a crappy franchise and they're pissed off about it. They are frankly angry, stupid and entitled fans who with few exceptions are making up shit because they are angry that the Jets have sucked for a long time. I get it. The reality is when BB basically said he wouldn't work for Woody Johnson for any amount of money in the world the die was cast. The New York Yankees were sold for nothing because a terrible ownership let the team decay and unlike the Jets the fans stopped showing up. They stopped buying the merchandise and they stopped eating the hot dogs. Jets fans are so entitled they are willing to fund a fire Gase truck while they own PSL's, buy season tickets, buy 3 different colored jersey's at NFL. fork over your money, eat the crap they serve and drink the beers at stupid prices. All while discussing how bad the first year HC because he didn't make the playoffs after 10 years of shitty drafting and terrible use of FA funds.
I think that's partly the problem. Outside of Landry, whose production has not changed across four head coaches, and Ajayi, who was a locker room cancer and is irrelevant in the NFL since being traded, I don't see any other complaints.
He still is crap a calling plays, makimg adjustments, and other head coaching things. But I don't think there is enough proof his players dislike him. Haha but as stated until we get 8 more games non of it really matters... if we got 1-7 or anywhere near it next year he has to go.
At no point did I say that which is why I didn’t bother responding to your post full of this exact same conjecture and straw men.
