I don't see Syracuse abandoning football. And moving to a 3rd tier confernece. Admitedlly, they have had a rough go of it recently. But that could be blamed on the staleness of Paul Pasqualoni (sp?). They had a pretty good recrutiing year this year and hopefully will be able to turn things around. One big loss was Ron Paulus (current Duke PG) who had a great Prep career at Christian Brothers Academy playing QB and playing basketball. It was diappointming to not see him come in and star for Boeheim and play QB. But hey, I don't blame the kid for going the way he did.
Not sure why I read that post the way I did. But I'll insert my argument for why 'Cuse won't move to the 3rd tier of BE. By the way,I guess you're happy you aren't eating any shoes today.
Any recent thoughts on how the ACC stacks up against the Big East? I think the Big East is showing that they are not a terrible conference and that the top of the conference is as strong as the ACC, if not stronger. The next few weeks should tell us a lot.
The top of the conference is stronger than the ACC. I believe WVU and Louisville would beat our top two teams (good luck picking who they are). However, I also think both of those teams are wildly overrated. Can't fault Louisville for beating a bad Miami team, but WVU has done anything to make me believe in them and have struggled at times against inferior opponents. The jury is still out on Rutgers, they are rolling but what will happen when they play the powerhouses? Pitt is an on again off again team, but besides those 4 who else really is there. Unfortunately, we also have horrendous teams in the ACC like Duke, UVA, UNC, and Maryland who would have trouble beating any team on any given night so I don't now what to think. I guess the only thing I can committ to is to watch for trends as the ACC seems to be going down hill and the Big East seems to be going up hill. Will it continue next year or is this a fluke year?
I think the ACC sucks this yeara nd overall the BE might be better BUT the top BE teams haven't beaten anybody and have struiggled w/ some lesser BE teams. The way Clemson is playing I think they might be the bst team from either conference. Curshing Gt and holding Calvin Johnson w/o a catch is damn imppresive- they must be kicking themselves for blowing that BC game.
West Virginia has "struggled against some lesser BE teams"? News to me. Code: Date Opponent Time/Result Sat, Sep 2 Marshall W 42-10 Sat, Sep 9 Eastern Washington W 52-3 Thu, Sep 14 Maryland W 45-24 Sat, Sep 23 at East Carolina W 27-10 Sat, Oct 7 at Mississippi State W 42-14 Sat, Oct 14 Syracuse W 41-17 Fri, Oct 20 at Connecticut W 37-11 Thu, Nov 2 at (6) Louisville 7:30 pm Sat, Nov 11 Cincinnati 12:00 pm Thu, Nov 16 at Pittsburgh 7:30 pm Sat, Nov 25 South Florida 12:00 pm Sat, Dec 2 (16) Rutgers TBA
they run up the score all the time(which is why I dislike rodriguez and WVU), a bunch of those games were close in the 2nd half and they pulled away and kept piling on late. Just look at that joke of a sched, it's unreal how easy that is. That's like a Jim Boeheim non-conf sched:rofl:
Something tells me that even the year the Big East put three teams in the Final Four, nyjunc wasn't sold that it was a good conference.
The Be was great in the mid 80s but since around the time your SH Pirates made the title game in '89 it's been slim pickings for the BE. The only 2 schools to make FFs since that tim have been SU twice and UConn twice. that's pretty pathetic for a conf that's supposed to be great.
As I noted elsewhere (maybe this thread, maybe in the other one), Maryland was a good ACC team when WVU scheduled that game. It's not WVU's fault Maryland sucks ass now. What game was close? East Carolina gave them the most trouble. West Virginia was winning 14-7 at halftime. They were sleepwalking in the first half. Then they beat the pulp out of them in the second half. I don't know when the Marshall game was scheduled. I do know Marshall, for years, had wanted to play WVU. WVU did play them in 1997 (Pennington and Moss were there). Eastern Washington? Just like Texas and Auburn (two examples; there are many more) WVU got a cupcake of the highest order. No big deal. Mississippi State? SEC team. A crappy team from the best conference. Ehh. I don't know when that one was scheduled. You can take shots at it all you want, but if the team wins out it will be in a major bowl.
2001: 10-1 2002: 10-3 2003: 9-3 Many college games are scheduled four or five years in advance. 2006's Maryland-WVU game was probably scheduled circa 2002 or maybe after the two teams met in the '03 Gator Bowl.
MD had a good year in '01 and was a decent team for a couple of years but in most years they are mid of the pack- it wasn't like scheduling UM. It's shocking to see the decline of UM- it wasn't w/ MD.
Why are HC's from the top BE schools canditates for a mid of the pack ACC job? http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/582329.html
It's kind of flimsy to judge a whole conference by how one or two teams do in the late rounds of the NCAAs. When you look at the strength of the entire conference and the players that come out of it, the Big East has consistently been one of the top conferences for about 25 years now. Not to pick on UNC, but putting a one-year wonder team of NBA lottery guys together for a year and winning the NCAAs doesn't necessarily make the whole conference stronger, it makes it top heavy for a year.
Yep, because Scout.com's near-random coach list makes him a real candidate for the job. And for the WVU-Marshall game, I'm pretty sure the governor of West Virginia just about forced the game to happen. What's funny is that the way GT played against Clemson shows that there isn't even one really good team in the ACC. It's either slightly above average or god-awful, only 2 tiers right now.
When you have 4 FF appearances as a conf in 16-17 years that shows the conf is not elite. There aren't many Elite 8 appearances either, just b/c they send alot of teams to the Tourney(b/c they have a million teams) doesn't make the league strong. The league was great in the mid-late 80s, had a re-birth for about 2 years in the mid 90s and has been good the last few years but w/o the FFs it's kind of meaningless. Last year was just the 3rd time since 1988 that at least one ACC team did not make the FF while since 1990 the BE has had just 4 years where one team has made it.
