Aaron Rodgers

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  1. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    The whole AR situation should be looked at very, very carefully by all the powers to be with one major focus in mind. What is the best path forward for the NY Jets for the next five years starting now?
    The GM and HC need to build their leadership team ASAP and start looking at salary cap implications, current unrestricted free agents, core capability that must be retained, on and on. AR is the big elephant in the room salary wise, but he also comes with a lot of other requirements that need to be addressed. Principally, if he is not willing to adjust to the new offensive approach or the plan is to take our lumps this year and build the offensive and defensive infrastructure properly, they need to move on. I believe there is a happy medium that builds around AR under the right conditions. but he cannot, must not and should not be bigger than the team. We need to absolutely prioritize the run first and foremost and stop with the playbook that does not best complement the entire team.
     
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  2. ouchy

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    Were not going to make much progress as long as Rodgers is here. His attitude and influence has a way of keeping us in a backwater. His contract alone needs to be dumped from our books this season. We are not going to the SB next year. He may have some trade value. Try and milk it.
     
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  3. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I don’t see him being traded. Either the Jets will keep him or they will release him. Similar to Russell Wilson with the Broncos. Then some random team will get Rodgers for basically free as the Jets pay him. That’s how he can remain in the league in 2025.
     
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  4. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    The entire league knows the pluses and minuses of AR. I don’t see a trade in the cards. What is best for us, milking the salary cap, keep him for a year or release him. Those are the only two options I see.Hope I’m wrong.
     
  5. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    If we keep him we pay him 25 million this season and will owe him 35 million in dead cap next year. Or we dump him for 49 million now and just move on. I think that's what we should do. He was a destabilizing force with returning coaches and GM. With new staff everywhere he could completely derail the entire build. We got enough to worry about with Woody doing that. If we have two people like that we're toast.
     
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  6. NJJets

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    You might be able to trade him, giving a late round pick sawp to the receiving team and having that team take on part of his salary. Kind of like the Brock Osweiler trade.
     
  7. SOXXX2

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    No but they can find out if Glenn can coach in 2025. (Rather than tank in 2025, then start a rookie QB in 2026, and a sophmore QB in 2027, and then maybe by 2028 we will know if Glenn has any clue what he is doing) I'd rather find out now so we can build for the future rather wait 3-4 years to find out if we have a competent head coach or not. The costlier option is running the Bowles/Saleh script all over again and throw away 4 seasons. Lets find out in year one what Glenn is.
     
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    He did not run the offense his way under MLF. MLF called the shots and Rodgers listened. If he stays, that's exactly what's going to happen again or Glenn will dump his ass. Most likely Rodgers will not be here next year, but if he is, he would have to take a massive pay cut and Glenn/OC runs the show. This is not unheard of, like I said, it already happened with MLF and can happen again. The whole point initially when we got him was that Rodgers will run it his way with Hack. But that experiment has failed, so IF his back, I believe it will be with the same parameters as under MLF.

    Now as far as the question about winning a SB, I don't think it is the right question. I think we need to end play-off drought 1st. Which QB gives us a chance to make play-offs next year? I personally would like Fields out of the available options I see out there. If not Fields, I don't really know - the pickings are extremely slim and Rodgers may actually be the best one.
     
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    I think we need to find out if Glenn can coach to. If we run it with Taylor and the Jets go 2-15 no one will be surprised and Glenn will get a pass. Then we will draft a rookie QB and if the Jets go 3-14 in 2026 Glenn will get another pass. But if we run it with Rodgers and go 2-15 then we know immediately that Glenn is not competent.

    The costliest option for this franchise is giving Glenn 3-4 years before we find out he is not a good head coach when we have an opportunity next year to see if he can coach. If the Jets win 9-10 games with Rodgers next year then at least we know Glenn improved the team and is a competent head coach. Lets find out NOW, not in 2028.....
     
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  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Why is next season important at all? The Jets need to look beyond the tips of their noses and actually begin to build a sustainable future. Eight ain't it.
     
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  11. Brook!

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    You are making sense Sox. Rodgers will give you average QB play. If Glenn can fix the culture of the team and make defense play to its potential we should have a winning season with Rodgers. But doing so will throw 2026 into jeopardy due to dead cap hit. Not sure what happens if Rodgers plays in 2026 as well in terms of cap.
     
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    It's not the end all season and I'm with you on looking at the big picture. That said, there's still enough talent on this roster that with an effective Rodgers they could probably make next season competitive. If Glenn is worth his salt at all, Rodgers will have to conform to whatever he and the OC decide to implement from a new system standpoint.

    We didn't hire Glenn to have Aaron Rodgers calling the shots next season. That won't happen like it did this season. If Rodgers buys in to Glenn and staff's plan next season then I could see it being a steady improvement in the W-L record and the overall team chemistry.
     
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    Until the following year when the experiment finally ends? Then start over one more time after wasting a year or two with Rodgers while everyone else worth keeping just gets another year or two older? There's no reason to drag out the inevitable and plenty of reasons to expedite it.
     
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    Especially because he’ll cost 35m against the cap in 2026, and people will be saying the same thing again.
     
  15. JetsNation06

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    So who do you propose at QB for next year? We know who the top FA QB's are. We know there'll be no top QB to draft at 7. Are you saying to roll with Tyrod Taylor and if not, who are you slotting in there?

    And spare me the 'we don't know what's going to happen with all the variables at play' because I just laid out the entire QB market for next year so want to hear who you're starting at QB for the Jets.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I can’t wait to hear his answers. RaleBird never answers questions tossed back his way about actual football stuff.
     
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  17. RochesterJet

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    Dude- the Jets scored more points last year than they have in the past decade.
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    AR was not the problem, the defense was this year.
     
  18. RochesterJet

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    Said it all along- this year is not the issue, it’s 2026.
     
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  19. Ralebird

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    Let me make this perfectly clear: I DO NOT CARE ABOUT 2025. The highest viable expectation of success would be no more than a single playoff game. The value of 2025 is in preparing for the future both financially and in player stock.

    It should be used as chance to reset the table and start from new. Every possible cap hit should be reduced to an absolute minimum in order to have more available going forward. If Tyrod Taylor plays 17 games I'm fine with that; if it's Derek Carr, I'm okay there too. If it's six games for Taylor, six for Travis and five for a fourth rounder like Rourke, I'm perfectly okay.

    BULLSHIT. Thanks for once again butting in when you have nothing to say. Grow up.
     
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  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What a cop out. No opinions stated as per usual.
     
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