If it were up to me I'd try to talk him into coming back. But I saw a report this morning about Rodgers wondering if Sunday's game will be his last game. Who knows? Then there's the Jets dysfunction & Woody who has no idea what he's doing. He's been a NFL owner for a quarter century and still has no idea how this works. .
He seems to have less of an idea than he used to. He rode the wave of the culture that Parcells installed with the franchise and that lasted through the end of the 2000s and thought that it meant that he knew what he was doing. Since then, he's shown that he has less than zero clue as to what he's doing as the owner of this franchise and it's not going to get any better any time soon. We'll all be back here in 3-4 years having this same discussion after the playoff drought reaches 17 or 18 and we're looking for the next GM and HC.
It was heavily reported almost two years ago that Woody Johnson was the mastermind of the plan to bring Rodgers to the Jets so you might be onto something in claiming Johnson "has no idea what he's doing."
Woody Johnson likely wants Rodgers gone. Woody Johnson will keep digging the hole deeper and deeper on this team. He should absolutely not be the one deciding if Rodgers should be allowed to return next season.
Wasn't Woody also the one that created the plan that Idzik had to keep Rex for a year and then Idzik could decide whether to fire Rex which incentivized Idzik to sabotage the 2014 season by not signing anyone at all after Rex won with that crap roster in 2013? Woody is the worst
While you are right about Johnson not having much idea and basically the hope is he would stumble into a good GM/HC with Spielman and Tanny's help, he was not the mastermind of Rodgers trade. Connor Hughes broke it down pretty well here: https://sports.yahoo.com/sny-nfl-insider-connor-hughes-112938789.html The Jets identified 19 QBs that possibly be available and broke them into 3 tiers. Tier 1 - SB Contender, Tier 2 - a play-off team, Tier 3 - Small improvement. Tier 1 QBs were Lamar, Stafford, and Rodgers. They called the Rams, were told no, Raven were not realistically entertaining trading Lamar, and that left Rodgers. This was just a misevaluation on the Jets, thinking Rodgers was similar level as the other two. JD had a lot of these.
I'm pissed - you had me waste another 11 1/2 minutes of my life looking for the smoking gun in a video I probably saw a year and a half ago. It's not there. At least twice Hughes mentions not just Woody, but also Christopher Johnson among the decision makers. There is no mention of who put Rodgers on the list of nineteen but without the immediate and ongoing support of the Johnson brothers the Rodgers experiment would have been over before it started. Past practice also show that Woody Johnson used splashy quarterback moves as marketing devices to peddle season tickets; there's no reason to believe that was not a huge factor in this debacle. Johnson writes the checks and supplied the air transport to Malibu; you can't convince me that Saleh or Douglas dragged a kicking and screaming Johnson onto that plane. The owner held all the chips and directed their play.
The reason to believe that was that they rated him in top tier skill-wise along with Stafford and Lamar as players who can have them compete for a SB, and the other two were not available. Hence I am not sure if there was another factor or not, but the tiers was skill evaluation exercise and the primary factor for this. This is no different than selecting Zach or any other player evaluation done by the FO.
I dunno, nbc sports doesn’t usually report tabloid nonsense without some corroboration. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...returns-to-jets-garrett-wilson-might-want-out
That's somewhat of a source but I didn't dig much, it's a decade ago now but I do recall that being widely known that Idzik basically had decision to fire Rex after a season or two. Rex went 8-8 that first year so Idzik couldn't fire him after a good season. Idzik then went on to not spend money and gave Rex that garbage roster in 2014 which guaranteed Idzik could fire him and bring his own guy in. Sources told The Post that, during the offseason, Ryan bumped into scouts and other coaches from around the league who told him Jets general manager John Idzik had been telling people his plan all along was to replace Ryan after the season and bring in his own head coach. https://nypost.com/2014/11/25/rex-has-known-all-season-idzik-planned-to-fire-him-source/
Well, I'm not hanging on every word in a single ten year old "story" that never came close to having even second hand information. Certainly not enough to repeat it.
You are expecting me to dig up a story from a decade ago using the search terms "Idzik wanted to fire Rex" which results in 1000s of stories of both them getting fired the same day. It was widely known and reported at that time that Idzik was allowed to fire Rex and pick his own guy if things didn't work out. I'm sure others here can verify that.
Nah pay no mind to that moron. You’re right. Here’s a couple more sources. Same initial source I believe but I remember it being talked about a ton on the air waves too. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/11/25/7290709/rex-ryan-expects-fired-jets-john-idzik https://bleacherreport.com/articles...y-has-known-jets-plans-to-fire-him-all-season https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/5...y-has-known-jets-plans-to-fire-him-all-season
Thank you. Anyone who followed the Jets in 2013-2014 should know Idzik was given Rex on a short-leash and he basically had to give him one season and then pick his own guy. Everyone knew this. Rex disrupted it by winning 8 games with Geno. I honestly think that Idzik intentionally didn't spend money heading into the 2014 season to sabotage Rex. Typical Jets and once again another example of Woody mismanaging this franchise.
fuck him, good riddance to bad rubbish. he can go make out with the punter and ohio states linebacker every day next year for all i care. and i hope he enjoys his money he got from dummy woody. id rather go to battle with tyrod taylor.
