The things is, I feel like this year I've seen quarterback play from the Jets that's better than anything I have seen in many years. That's what makes Aaron Rodgers interesting to me. Some truly amazing throws - (even today - the first TD pass, throws to Conklin) combined with keeping moving the ball forward, is a great combination. There are few (not none, but few) plays when I ever thought "what is that guy doing?" I'm at a loss to understand the problem. Is it AR creating drama around the team and bringing in his binkies that makes people take things less seriously? Is it bad coaching? Problems in the kicking game? Bad luck? This is soooooo frustrating to me. In the past, with Tebow or Geno, it was just sad. Now? I just don't know.
The biggest difference between last year and this one is luck. The Jets were very lucky in close games last year and are very unlucky this year. Of course having the worst kicker in the league is costing the Jets those close games. Plus Woody firing Saleh ruined any hope of the Jets coming back this year because Ulbrich is in over his head, and the players have no interest in giving it their all after seeing the most functional coach on the staff get scapegoated.
Ironic Green Bay is 6-2 without Rodgers and we are 2-6 with him, proof that they knew he was washed and offloaded their unwanted baggage on us, it’s amazing how not 1 team wanted to touch this diva with a 10 foot pole and we gave up 2 2nds for this bum, I mean like why? Greenbay couldn’t wait to get rid of this dude and we ran to give them what they freakin wanted. We coulda had him For much less if our gm wasn’t a moron
Slow and old. And taking a delay of game penalty on a 2 point conversion is in the HOF for dumbass QBing
Likely the kicking game debacle is a significant driver in our "bad luck" in close games, but if this is true, it would indicate that a new kicker and some regression to the mean would get the Jets rolling. How good do you feel about that prediction?
All true, but he was OK yesterday. Not great, but not bad either. Yesterday we had 3TDs and 2 easy FGs. Normally with an NFL kicker on the roster (thanks JD) that's 27 points. This was not a terrible day for him. Also, I am not sure if he is the sole reason for delay of game pens. Sometimes it has to do with coaching, people not in the right place, etc... Overall, even being a below average QB now, he is better than any QB we had in many years as normally we have #32 starting QB. Unfortunately it comes at a time where we are not rostering a professional kicker and the defense greatly regressed. Not to mention terrible coaching on offense, but that has been a constant for years.
It's actually mind blowing to see the delay of game stuff every single week. It isn't the sideline getting the plays in or else we would see a reaction from everyone on the offense. This is a Rodgers thing. I'm going to throw some fantasy football information out here for this because it kind of relates. When Rodgers was in Green Bay, Packers players were always dinged by analysts because of pace of play and how slow Rodgers moves the offense -- efficient, but slow. We are seeing the same thing here in regards to the slowness of the offense. It looks as if Rodgers gets the play from Downing, gets to the line. Either checks out of the play based on what he sees or is trying to be absolutely perfect with his protection and route combinations based on what he deciphers from the D. He's trying to play OC and QB at the same time. He's trying to get everything to be perfect in an imperfect world. It doesn't work and it's killing them every single week. I wonder if he's trying to be so perfect with everything because he is just scared to get hit. Idk.
Yeah, he is scared to get hit. There was one play yesterday where someone grabbed him by the shoe laces and he got out of it, and then he bought himself time, but instead of using it, just threw the ball away. Or when he tried to spike the ball at the very end, even though we had no chance, but he could barely get up there regardless. Basically, he is hurt again. These two games where he got blitzed and OL couldn't figure out where they had to be where he got hit a lot, I think he got hurt physically and possibly mentally. Perhaps once he recovers he can be more mobile and not be so afraid, but right now he can't move. You saw him on the injury report for multiple things too, and these injuries are real. Not sure if he can get through the season without these at this stage of his career.
I still think Rodgers did better than Tyrod would. 3TDs and 2 easy FGs is not a bad outcome, I don't know if Tyrod would have matched that. Now we can play Tyrod, who gives a fuck. Too bad Travis is still hurt.
It is truly painful to watch them walk up to the line and snap it with 1 second left, if we're lucky. It's Rodgers thing for sure as you point out he's been like that his whole career. There is a reason we are the only team that plays that way. Modern offenses focus on running with a quick pace, it gives you more plays over the course of the game AND yeah, Rodgers makes adjustments to assignments, but so can the defense on the other side. In college football playing with a quick pace is even more of an emphasis. We have a team full of young players used to playing that way and Rodgers is trying to make them play like its 2005.
Aaron Rodgers fucked up the rebuild. It should have been Carr and keeping the draft picks. He is a pretty boy druggie diva. Everyone who wanted him is a fucking idiot. I don't think this team will get better until Woody sells or dies. Most likely dies, because he won't be selling. I don't think I'm going to watch Thursday night. I'll watch if they make the playoffs. Better things to do than watch this shitshow AGAIN! Fuck you Woody.
Yeah... Carr was the right move if we could have convinced him to come here over the Saints. But ... we need to clean house and get better coaching. I don't even know if Carr would have succeeded with these incompetent coaches that we have.
Carr fucking sucks to and has dumbass money all the way to 2027. At least the Jets can rip the bandaid off and eat Rodgers money in 2025 and be done with it.
Like i pointed out yesterday it didn't even have to be Carr. Who in defense of this undeserving FO you can make the argument wasn't ever actually going to pick playing in this cesspool of eternal failure over New Orleans as soon as he got FA rights. A fair # of those 2023 1 year contract free agents with extensive starter experience (and who all posted better QBRs the Rodgers did in 2022 FWTW) didn't land starter jobs though, and most certainly could of been had though if we had offered that opportunity they didn't get elsewhere here. Baker is the easy FA of that group in in hindsight to point to as a missed opportunity. When i first joined this board to complain about the FO choosing to abandon the rebuild to go chase down Rodgers my top pick was always Jameis Winston though. Which was always met with "YOU'D RATHER HAVE WINSTON THEN AARON RODGERS? HAHAHA. THAT IS SO STUPID". Which i'd always reply No. I'd rather Jameis Winson at QB, the extra two 2nd rounds picks, the chance of a better OC hire that would of absolutely never ended up being Nathaniel Hackett without a full intent to bring in AR, no overpay Lazard contract, and a desire to maintain the preserved flexibility of not having to view every major team decision though a "what works for Aaron" lens through 2025. That firm opinion was laid down before AR even took one of his few 2023 snaps. I've always been super intrigued on what a humbled Winston could/would look like in a decent setup situation and if given another extended and starting opportunity again. I've had to wait until yesterday to finally get a first look at that since then. Which just so happens on the same day the Rodgers Delusion bubble finally bursts, and while I'm watching our season end in one of the arguable top 3 most heartbreaking Jets losses play itself out. Of course Winston drops 334 yards and 3 TD. Playing on a bad Cleveland team that upsets a top shelf team like Baltimore. Just the cosmos looking to twist that dagger into my raging heart a little deeper lol
It didn’t need to be Carr. Just anyone that didn’t cost us two premium picks. We are goi by to rebuild? With what? Any talent that is able will flee at the end of the season. We will be left with old man Rodgers, his crew, other rejects, men here only under pain of contract and a dearth of draft picks. It will be a few years before we have the assets to build a good team. Another few years in the wilderness. In another time the Johnsons would be chased out of town by an angry mob. Oh for a Time Machine
Carr outperformed Rodgers last year, big time and for less money. Even missing three games this season he's ahead of Rodgers in most metrics. We don't even need to talk about the influence AR seems to be wielding over management and the costs thereof.
