Saying he shouldn't be suspended isn't an excuse. It's a fact of reality because the NFL almost never suspends people for DUIs.
The cops may know who they are. They have some sort of video on the three of them and they say three more search warrants have been issued..2 of them may be on their houses.
I think you are misinterpreting much of what is being expressed in this thread. Nobody is rooting for Pats players to commit murder or other crimes. And I think most people understand that there is a serious crime and a death that overshadows all of this. But, from a Jets fans point of view, many of us are interested in two things. First, how does the national football media, which adores the Patriots beyond any rational thought, handle this scandal and the other off the field crap that this building this year in Patriot land. The Jets have been the NFL national and local media's whipping boys for two years running now. Everything the Jets do is viewed through a negative prism and magnified. Now the Pats are in a situation that in some ways is comparable to the Jets - signing Tebow - and some ways far worse - this Hernandez situation. And Jets fans want to see the Patriot adoration stop and see the organization criticized for justifiable off the field issues. They want to see the ESPN and NFL Network trucks parked outside Pats camp for the next two months and Belichick and Kraft peppered with questions about the character of their players, the ridiculous questions Tebow brings (what is his role, when will he take over for Brady, why isn't he playing more, will he be the new TE), and questions about other players the Pats have had over the years who can't stay out trouble. Let's face it, the Patriots are now a circus and Jets fans want them labeled as such. The second issue is a football issue and that is Jets fans wondering how the Patriots will handle all of these issues and distractions on the field and how it translates into wins and losses. All we have heard the past 10 years is about how the Patriots do everything right and "the Patriot way" and all this other Patriot adulation when, in the end, it is all BS. And we want to hear from the same people who poked fun at the Jets for running a circus give the Pats equal treatment. None of this diminishes the tragedy of a lost life and the potential for other ruined lives as a result of the crime. But that happened already. The reaction, while admittedly prurient, has us all interested and there is nothing wrong with that.
Part of me wonders if it's just Pats fans and dedicated Pats media clowns that are contradicting the story to avoid making the team look bad. I wouldn't put it past them.
So what? are we not allowed to have our own opinions? I believe a DUI should be an automatic suspension and I felt Braylon should have been suspended. I didn't say anyone is rooting for Pats to murder people but folks are hoping Hernandez did it so it weakens NE. anyone paying attention knows the Pats have had many more issues than we have BUT b/c they have won more it gets swept under the rug, if we were going to the playoffs the last 2 years I guarantee you we wouldn't have seen half the negative press we received.
There are a lot of teams who didn't go to the playoffs the last two years and a lot of them with worse issues than signing Tim Tebow. What barrage of insults did we hear being lobbed at them?
How many of those teams had a HC who talks like Rex? That comes w/ it, were we being bashed like this under Mangini or Herm? No. I love Rex but he brings that extra attention to the franchise.
I don't think people are "hoping" he did it, because at the end of the day there was a lose of life here and that sucks no matter which way you slice it. People would be more sympathetic if he got hurt or something and was out for the season. But when you start murdering people or are tied to a murder, then all sympathy goes out the window.
It gets resolved by NFL giving NE 3 extra compensatory 1st and 2nd round draft picks "in the best interest of the game".
He was the same when he was in Baltimore(and I know he wasn't the HC there)..if he wasn't with the Jets you would hear a fraction of what you hear now.
The coverage or lack there of, that nlf.com gave this story in the first few days of its breaking, was laughable. That of course comes from a, thoroughly, media whipped Jets fan point of view. Rex, foot fetish made more noise. Say what you want, but we don't have any players under investigation for murder. Does anyone know if Kraft got that super bowl* ring that they "won" back from the Kremlin yet? :lol:
Aaron may or may not be guilty of murder, but he is certainly guilty of something (Besides, apparently, being a dumb fuck)! The destroyed security system, phone, and having a cleaning crew come scrub your house means one of two things. 1- There's stuff at his house or on video that ties him to the murder... 2- There was stuff going on at his house (drug dealing?) that he needed to clean up because he knew the cops would come to him right away once he knew his buddy had been killed. One way or the other his football career is probably over, and more than likely, his fate seems worse than that. And for those here that seem to think Pats fans are trying to spin this thing one way or the other... pretty much everyone I know feels like I do about this.
I'd agree with you if that was the standard NFL rule regarding DUIs, but it's not. Either way I still feel they should always wait until the verdict before taking any action. People are falsely accused of crimes all the time. Look at the whole Big Ben thing. The lady's story was inconsistent, and full of holes and lies. The charges were dropped... yet he still got suspended, just for getting accused. I don't think that is right at all. What kind of example is that to set? What if the chick was a Ravens fan trying to screw the team over? I'm going to go to the Boston PD and accuse Tom Brady of raping me tomorrow, just to get him suspended. Haha. The difference with Edwards, is that people were calling for his suspension (and he was benched for a quarter) before he was even proven guilty, despite the NFL not suspending people in the past. They have to be consistent.
That still doesn't mean he did it. There's tens of thousands of Ravens fans that could benefit from that. I thought it was only 2 chicks though.
I would second that. Every single one of the Patriots fans I know are resigned to whatever happens here and I haven't heard a single person try to defend Hernandez. He looks guilty as hell and most people have the good sense to put humanity and justice above football. Regardless of anything else, the victim was someone's son, brother, cousin, friend, etc. If Hernandez is guilty, he should pay the price.
Well then you guys don't happen to know the same Pats fans I know, I guess. It's been excuse / downplay city.
There was this report which is kinda funny: Fine, if Robert Kraft is going to be such a big baby about it, Vladimir Putin will buy him a ring to make up for the one he supposedly pocketed in 2005. The Russian president responded to Kraft’s claim of a pilfered Super Bowl ring while at an economic forum in St. Petersburg. Sometimes I wish there was a font that could accurately portray sarcasm. It often gets lost in transcription. This isn’t one of those times. Putin’s tone comes across juuuuuust fine. “If it is such a big treasure for Mr. Kraft and the team … I have a suggestion. I will ask a jewelry firm to make a really good and big thing, so everyone will see it is a luxury piece, made of quality metal and with a stone, so this piece will be passed from generation to generation in the team whose interests are represented by Mr. Kraft. This would be the smartest solution partners can ever achieve while tackling such a complicated international problem.” Putin also said he doesn’t remember Kraft.
