A (self-believed) rational statement regarding Wilson & White

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Agree, and they won't. The last thing he Johnsons want is an offseason-long QB controversy affecting their slush fund.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't think Mike White is some single game fluke, he's a solid game manager but he's very limited in skillset as people have alluded to. The fact that he was able to rack up yardage in his first start tells me he was able to connect with a pretty solid compliment of weapons that Zach hasn't been.

    If something comes out of this, I'm hoping that it ignites a competitive spark in Zach that gets focuses him, because he has been mostly erratic in his starts this season.
     
  3. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    Do you really believe Zach is not focused or competitive? Zach is a rookie going through rookie struggles.
     
  4. Jets-N-Terps

    Jets-N-Terps Well-Known Member

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    All he did was take what was given and hit open guys anywhere from the line of scrimmage to 15 yards down the field. Brady became the GOAT because he did this for years. If Mike White can hit the short ones at anywhere near 82% and mix in a few deep balls here and there, we are in for a QB controversy. Conversely if Wilson comes back and can hit the short ones like Mike White did last week and not miss wide open guys, he will be excellent...Neither has happened yet, so we'll see.
     
  5. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Mike White did the same thing last Sunday that Tom Brady did for an entire career, distribute the ball to his playmakers. How many times can you remember Brady throwing on the run, or running for the sidelines to make a spectacular play? Brady was the master at recognizing a defense and exploiting it's weakness. The difference, of course, is consistency and accuracy, which we will see if MW is capable of sustaining. Not saying Mike White is Tom Brady, but if he has a limited skillset, he's in good company.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Point blank; Mike White was a pass-first point guard in start #1. A ball distributor.

    That's one of the things I loved about Joe Burrow coming out. He doesn't have elite arm strength or anything like that, but he had an elite ability to dissect defenses.

    We'll see what adjustments the Colts make and what the Jets do gameplan wise. They're likely going to have to attack outside the numbers and deeper down the hashes as the Colts have been pretty banged up in the secondary all year.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Good post. I think it's important for people to remember that Brady wasn't great immediately either. Lots of folks on here saying White has tonight and will come back to earth and that's it for him. If Brady was given that same treatment he never woulda had a chance to become who he is. Brady 2nd start: 12-24 86 yards passing, sacked 4 times and fumbled twice
     
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  8. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Am I really seeing Mike White being compared to Tom Brady? You gotta love Jets fans!
     
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    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    Well said, I was just about to post a similar statement here...

    Tom Brady has made a career at taking what defenses are giving and the short game.

    Mike White played like Brady for one game -

    His processing speed, accuracy, zip (for better or worse) + his frame and body language all were more reminiscent of Brady than any Jets Qb in franchise history.

    I’ve never seen a Jets offense scheme guys open like that Cincy game. They looked just like the Pats of old. Even the oline was holding up well.
    Was it Mike White, Lefleur in the booth, the game plan or an unprepared Cincy team... IDK??

    One thing I can say as a long time Jets fan - it was beyond weird, probably a fluke + all comes back to earth tonight...

    Still Mike White is the man until he’s not...

    Can’t even think about Wilson until White comes back to Earth...

    If he plays well the rest of the season, it’s a good problem to have.
     
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  10. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    If we were looking for a dink and dunk QB to run a Patriots style offense, we should have traded back in the first round and drafted Mac Jones. Was there anyone who wanted Jones? I honestly can't remember.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i was pretty high on him until i fell in love with zach. I wanted a trade down/jones over fields or lance at 2
     
  12. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    If he keeps playing well we could probaly get a 2nd rounder or more for him
     
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  13. Gremlin

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    Wasn't clear that the 49ers wouldn't take him at #3 so if you were 100% in on Jones then it'd have to be with the #2 and no trading back.

    Sure it turned out he went #15 and we could of had him with the AVT pick but whoever we traded with might of gone for a QB not called Zach Wilson and caused ripples down the line that would of left us with the choice of Trask, Mond or Mills.
     
  14. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, so take him at #2 then. The guy is perfectly capable of doing what Mike White did last week. He's completing 68% of his passes and has 9 TD's vs 6 INT's without really throwing the balls down field. His team even exploded for 51 points one game, wink wink.

    Eveyone seems to be thrilled with what White did and we passed on a guy that's 3 years younger and can do the same thing.
     
  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Why are you so unbelievably salty about this entire situation?
     
  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    a real head scratcher....

    If Mike White is as good as Mac Jones is then we should be happy and the Pats should be the ones kicking themselves. See the Jets got Mike White off the practice squad and didnt have to use a 1st round pick on him. Why in the fuck should we the fans be upset they didn't draft Mac Jones in this scenario?
     
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  17. ouchy

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    A big part of White's success was the Bengals deciding not to man up on our RBs out of the backfield, which resulted in 14 completions for 166 yards. It was kind of puzzling why they never adjusted to correct this. We cant count on other teams doing the same thing so were going to have to see something more from White soon enough. Probably tonight.
     
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  18. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Because no one wants a dink and dunk QB. They want a dynamic QB with a great arm, the ability to make big plays and carry them team when they need him to. Yet there seem to be a growing number of people that now want a guy who will basically be Jimmy G and they are comparing him to Tom Brady. After one game.

    I'm not salty, I'm just dumfounded. I don't get it. I'm not saying Wilson is going to be that dynamic QB. Not by any stretch. But that's the type of QB this franchise needs.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The fan base wants a quarterback that moves the sticks. Brady continues to be the comparison because he was a dink and dunk guy for nearly the first decade of his career before he met Randy Moss. And then he transformed into that dynamic quarterback.

    A lot of young quarterbacks might come off as "dink and dunk" passers when they start off their careers because that's what the team game plan is to keep the ball safe, as well as keep them safe.

    The dynamic plays develop later on in a lot of cases but ball protection is very important to a young QBs development (if they're not Mahomes...). We just saw what happened when a rookie comes in, with his eyes consistently down field and can't complete shorter passes to keep the chains moving.

    Look at how much Herbert is starting to struggle when he's not hitting 40 yard pass plays every drive. Same with Mahomes.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I didn't make myself clear enough. See my response to Vilma. Sorry for the confusion.
     

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