Hmmm, have you read all the threads here questioning many of the personnel decisions by Rex and company on both offense and defense ? ?? You know, Rex's penchant for sticking with older, highly paid players, even though some of the young guys showed a lot more on the field ?
Like how Demario Davis is getting 1/2 the snaps. How Coples and Wilk are playing the majority of the snaps. How Trufant started at nickel against the Pats. How Antonio Allen and Josh Bush both got playing time this year. How Gates started at WR. How Powell and Grimes were both used at RB behind Greene. How Reuland and Hilliard have played for us. How Ducasse is getting reps for Slauson and Moore in games. You mean sticking to older players like that? He's made the changes at almost every other position for better or for worse. Now we can discuss if some of these changes have been good or bad, but he has made the adjustments and started young guys and highly compensated players.
I think we just have to make one the starter and stick with him. The way we use Tebow is just ridiculous. Mark makes a 30+ yard pass and is taken out the next play. Tebow makes a nice play for a first down and then he comes out. Its idiotic. I dont care which one we use at this point but I want to see one of them gone. Tebow is the easier one to get rid of because of his contract. Mark probably cant be traded but he can be benched.
Absolutely agree on the WC play calling. You don't run it on 1st and 10 with Tebow and you don't pull Sanchez after a really nice play. Sparano simply doesn't know what he is doing vis a vis Tebow and the WC.
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I guess we know what the CS and the players are seeing in practice now. Not only is Tebow a "football player" masquerading as a backup QB, but from the FO staff we get a quote that the Wr's are "garbage". When you HC doesn't refer to you as a QB but instead, a "football player", that should be all Tebow needs to request a trade at season's end. He'll never start, or unless something horrible happens to Sanchez, start at QB for the NYJ's. Sorry Tebots, that's just the way it is here. I feel sorry for the kid. At this rate, Mike Tannenbaum might want to freshen up his resume.
Tanny definitely should be first on the list of things to go. Rex needs to keep an eye on that because we might not save him if a GM doesn't want him. Cavanaigh needs to be very worried. Sanchez knows he is here next year BUT that is probably his last year unless he improves. Tebow needs to go to a team willing to rebuild around him, but I'm not sure what that team would be. Maybe the Eagles but they look set on Foles.
I don't think Tebow has an NFL gig for next year at this point. Jacksonville will take a hard look but they're probably going to be bringing in a new coach with Mike Mularkey one and out after 2-14. The GM is definitely gone and the new guy will want his own coach. The owner is the wild card there. I don't see any other team that is going to want to pick up Tebow as a QB for the season at this point. If Chip Kelly winds up in Jacksonville then maybe Tebow has a job but I expect that if the Jets let him go he's in the CFL.
you know tebow might be best served playing a couple years in the cfl.. the scrutiny would be far less than at another nfl city and i am willing to bet he would be able to play, and what better place to learn how to throw than the pass happy cfl.
I think this point is very often ignored here. The fact is that Sanchez didn't suck his entire career, despite what some people say. His career falls into 3 well-defined stages. The first was the regular season of 2009 (his rookie year), when he was quite bad (53.8% completion pct, 12 TD, 20 INT, 63.0 rating). The preferred explanation then was that he was a rookie, and that was supported by his improved performance in the second stage of his career, from the playoffs of 2009 through game 13 of 2011 (56.4% completion pct, 47 TD, 27 INT, 81.1 rating). He was not a great QB in that time period (still too inaccurate), but he was a reasonable starter who had shown some real ability to perform in tough situations. The mystery is what has happened in his last 12 games, where he has regressed badly (53.3 completion pct, 15 TD, 16 INT, 67.5 rating). Is it that the league has figured him out? Is it that his weapons are gone? Is it that the Jets have ruined him with poor OC playcalling and the Tebow circus? I have no idea, but after a tailspin at the end of last season he has shown no sign that he can pull himself out of this, a doomsday scenario for the Jets. As to why Tebow isn't starting yet, as a few other people have noted, I think it's Tebow's contract. The Jets can't let him get 55% of the snaps or a $5 miilion bump in his salary kicks in, and the Jets are completely screwed with respect to the cap next year. Once it is far enough along in the season that that can't happen there will be no reason not to start him, particularly if the Jets are 3-8 at the time.
Kurt Warner had one of the funkiest throwing styles you'll ever see, basically launching the ball with his thumb on the end of the ball itself. The motion was very quick and smooth but the hand placement was unique. He had trouble getting a job in the NFL because things just didn't look right when he threw the ball. The Rams signed him to a FA contract in 1998 but didn't really know what to make of him. Then he went to NFL Europe for a season and totally blew them away with the quick outlet passes up the seams that reminded everybody of Marino. The Rams brought him into camp in 1999 and handed him to Martz and the rest was history. If Warner didn't get the chance to play in NFL Europe he probably never starts for the Rams. Sometimes you need the exposure to prove that an unorthodox style works.
It really is a mystery. I think at least some of it has to do with the offensive line being bad last season. I know the stats don't show it clearly but Sanchez took some really wicked hits all season long, from the moment DeMarcus Ware leveled him on the opening snap of the season to the Ravens game where he got blindsided twice to the Denver game where he got consistently smacked around. Then you get down to the end of the season and you have two of the top three pass rushes in Philly and the Giants, both of whom just sat on Sanchez with 9 sacks between the two games. You get Sanchez throwing balls into the back of his offensive linemen in that period. He's obviously hearing footsteps by that point. I don't think the footsteps ever went away. I think Wayne Hunter and Matt Slauson in combination ruined Mark Sanchez.
No the reason TT is not starting (not that it would make any difference) since neither has SB QB skills is the entire NYJ O has to be realigned if TT is have any chance of success & most probably the coaches hired by RR are not up to that task. :sad:
That's exactly the point - the ideal time to do that was during the bye week, but it was never considered. If it had happened then Tebow would have started the rest of the season and gotten a hefty raise, since you couldn't go back to Sanchez at that point.
I agree with all the points made except the one about not being able to go back to Sanchez after Tebow... Why not? If it's because his confidence would be shot, then he shouldn't be in the nfl anyway. If there's another reason, I would like to hear it. Tebow needs a shotgun spread offense if he wants to be at his best (even as a supporter I realize that isn't exactly a high ceiling) and the Jets just don't have the CS or personnel for it. IMO.
It was a marriage of convenience. The Jets wanted the press, more attention, some use on the field, and hey, maybe he is possibly a locker room presence in one that can unify what many believe to be a dysfunctional locker room. Tebow wanted a bigger platform for his brand. He said it himself when he chose New York (though he tried at first as something he had little control over.) I don't think either really knew what they were getting into. The Jets underestimated the polarization he could bring, and Tebow underestimated just how brutal the New York media can be. I gotta wonder if either side would make the deal if they could do it all over again.
Because no coach in his right mind is going to make a change at QB and send somebody in to a cascade of boos. Think about it.
