Rex is the main cog - Get two pass rushers for Revis or a pass rusher and another CB and with Cro and Kyle i think we're still looking at a top defense - heck, maybe better.
to the retards that want to trade revis...do you guys realize how our defense goes from #1 in the league to top 5-10 which is a huge difference. imagine last season with lito sheppard or lowery going up against all those elite WR's revis shut down? umm yeah. so enough, revis should never be traded.
Yes, Ryan's defense is great when the QB gets little time to make decisions. It's not so great when the QB is protected as Peyton Manning was in the second half of the AFC Championship game. Ryan's defense is great when there is blanket press coverage for 2 seconds at the snap. It's not so great when there is a weak link to find in the coverage because one or more of the defensive backs assigned primary coverage can't jam well and recover to give that 2 seconds of coverage. The Jet's defense last year would have been even better if they had been able to force more quick throws with a traditional 3-4 pass rush or if the talent in the defensive backfield had been more evenly distributed. Darrelle Revis is a great cornerback, one of the best ever, but he is close to value-less when somebody is getting beaten away from him on the field. Against the Colts Revis was no factor at all, because the #2 and #3 receivers were beating the Jets like a drum after the initial pressure on Manning was solved and he began to get time to throw the ball. If the Jets really want to improve the defense they need to get more pressure on the QB. As you say they'd likely be better with Cro and Wilson and a strong pass rush than with Revis, Cro and Wilson and a weak one that relies on safety blitzes for it's pressure.
While seen by some as Heretical by some, I agree with this and depending on the return no one is untradable. Having said that, I don't think it comes anywhere close to that.
Wait...what the heck? U guys would actually not mind trading away Revis AND a 2nd round pick for a RB??? RBs come dime a dozen and you can grab a really good one in even the third round. Its about the OL, not too much about the RBs. I would trade Revis for C Johnson AND a 1st, plus 2nd. Shutdown CBs come once in a few years. Breakaway RBs come every draft.
BURNS???? It kills man...it kills. Two fucking first rounders for that piece of shit. Could have had two pro bowlers including Aso instead of that junk.
I would do this deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. With Johnson the Jet's offense would be elite. Like last year's only the two backs sharing duties both have amazing breakaway ability and can take any play to the house. That in turn would force defenses to play 7 or 8 men in the box on 1st down and would give Sanchez, Cotchery, Holmes, Edwards and Keller the potential for a field day downfield. We're talking a 400+ pt offense here. The defense might not be as good as last year's but with that offense it'd still be strong enough to make the Jets the main Super Bowl contender in the AFC.
same thing applies with Revis. With Revis, this D becomes elite. Without Revis, you can forget about all the 'exotic blitzes' and get ready to be burned a few times a game. CJ is definitely an elite RB, but Mean Shonn Greene is not too far behind, just hasn't had the chance.
Let's trade revis to the other 31 teams as one game rental in return for 31 1st rounders and just draft the entire 1st round next year.
The Jets had the #1 rushing offense in the NFL last year and it didn't win them anything. Chris Johnson is a very good running back, maybe the best in the league, but the difference between a good running back and a great running back over the course of an NFL season is minimal. Maybe 1 or 2 games difference? A RB only touches the ball on running plays, so if a defense just stacks the box and forces you to pass what good is he? The Titans had the best RB in the game last season and finished 8-8. Put in a Thomas Jones and they finish maybe 6-8, 7-9 and still miss the playoffs. Barry Sanders was the best running back ever and he never brought the Lions anywhere near a superbowl.
The Jets #1 rushing offense last year was a product of a huge number of carries. They could put out the same output with 10% fewer carries with Johnson and Greene as the main backs in the offense. The difference between a good running back and a great runningback is probably 1 game tops over the course of a season if that (probably not a full game unless you have an all-time great at RB.) The difference between a bad runningback (in the case of a Greene injury this is odds on where the Jets would be) and a great runningback could easily be 2 games or more. The difference between a good CB and a great CB is probably not half a game over the course of a season. The difference between a bad CB and a great CB could easily be 2 games or more (less likely the Jets wind up with a bad CB given their depth than a bad RB at this point.) Barry Sanders was a big part of the one season the Lions had a shot at a Super Bowl. Then the overall talent on the team declined and no runningback would have made the difference. Basically both Johnson and Revis are incapable of carrying the Jets to a Super Bowl. Both are unlikely to produce even a single win for the team based on the position they play. The Jets have real depth at CB and not so much at RB. That means one of their biggest failure points for next season is losing Greene to an injury. I'd trade a great CB for a great RB for next season without thinking too hard about it.
The Titans are 1-3 vs. the Colts with Chris Johnson. They were 2-2 vs. the Colts the 2 years prior to him arriving.
