2021 - Week 12: New York Jets at Houston Texans

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Nov 21, 2021.

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Who will win?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2021.
  1. Jets

    54.8%
  2. Texans

    45.2%
  1. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Wilson Isn't even on the same vantage point as Josh Allen. I'm tired of seeing this comparison. Nothing suggests that WIlson Is going to be the next Josh Allen.

    I seen the hype coming out of college with Josh Allen. I thought Josh Allen was going to be an amazing NFL QB.

    I did not have that feeling with Wilson coming out of college.

    Maybe I'm wrong. I highly fucking doubt It though.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The rookies who got better either looked like they belonged at the start with some rough edges that needed to be smoothed out or they took freaking forever to develop.

    Zach Wilson doesn't look like an NFL QB. Period.

    If I listed all the guys of the last two decades who looked as bad as he has looked this year I'd probably have 15 guys who never amounted to anything and Jared Goff in the list. Notably Goff may be an NFL QB but his first team gave up on him and traded two 1st round picks to get rid of his contract and the team they traded him too is 0-10-1.
     
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  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Logical take, 5.5 games into someone’s career and after his first game coming off a four week injury.
     
  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Not what I said. My point is a lot of teams probably would win more with a vet than a rookie. Put Flacco on the Jags and I bet they have more than two wins too.
     
  5. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Gee, silly me. When I watch a professional football game I expect to see a modicum of competent play. Maybe I’m doing this wrong.
     
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  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think the biggest issue is that the Jets never asked themselves if he was ready to be a starting QB.

    Their coaches were so preoccupied with whether or not they could throw Zach on the field game one that they never stopped to think about whether they should.
     
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  7. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    In an alternate timeline Kurt Cousins chose the Jets over the Vikings.

    So much went wrong after he turned us down.
     
  8. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I thought he was kneeling.
     
  9. Centiment

    Centiment Well-Known Member

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    This is true but we're used to being turned down by decent free agents we pay megabucks for dross.
     
  10. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I was pounding the table for signing Beathard or Mullens during the offseason. Both knew what the LaFleur offense would be about and could've held the fort until Zach was ready.
     
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  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think Cimini had the best idea. Nick Foles could have started for the Jets this year and into next no problem at all. He could have been a full two year starter if needed and bridged to the next QB choice if that was what was needed.
     
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  12. hornblower

    hornblower Well-Known Member

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    Third win. Hope for five or six. Team is coming along.
     
  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Cousins would never have amounted to much for the Jets. Classic good game manager and the Jets would not have had the talent around him for him to manage to wins.

    Yes, they would have been much better with him than with the carousel of young guys but the better would have been 6 to 9 win seasons instead of 2 to 7.
     
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  14. CotcheryFan

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    Foles would've worked too. I thought of those two because they come from the 49ers and have an idea what LaFleur would run.
     
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think Cimini's point on Foles was that he was an actually good veteran QB who you could argue could play in any situation the Jets faced.

    Obviously Foles is not a starter on a good team at this point but he'd have been like manna from heaven on a team like the Jets starved for competent QB play after 5 seasons without.
     
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  16. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    Hell, let’s get nostalgic. This shit show reminded me of the 70s Jets - Oilers games in the dreary astrodome when both were terrible. In 72, I think, Houston went 1-13. Guess who the one win was against. Those were some god awful games anyone else remember them?
     
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  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I've blanked that one out of my memory, likely because I was 11 at the time and the first Oiler I remember really well was Earl Campbell who was probably not on the scene yet.
     
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  18. Centiment

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    Troll lol
     
  19. CotcheryFan

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    Oh absolutely. An argument could have been made for building the team up in the 2021 and 2022 offseasons, then getting a QB in the 2023 draft. The Chiefs did something similar when they had Smith come in when Reid took over.
     
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  20. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Think of all the players we would have drafted if we didn't use all of our picks on QBs.
     
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