2021 - Week 12: New York Jets at Houston Texans

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Nov 21, 2021.

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Who will win?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2021.
  1. Jets

    54.8%
  2. Texans

    45.2%
  1. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    That's the concerning bit for sure. The odd wow through here and there doesn't make up for the gimmes being too high or low as they have been far too often. He's got a long way to go.
     
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  2. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Complaining implies I care. If something a stranger says on the internet affects your day, seek help. It’s just always fun to read the extreme opinions. Not saying all are extreme but they sure exist.

    Yes I watched the game. Wilson did what he needed to do in the second half after a trainwreck first half. I don’t care about the yardage, the run game was absolutely rolling. If we didn’t focus on the run, we’d be stupid. He barely threw a pass in the fourth quarter and by design. Hes coming off a four week injury 10 weeks into his rookie year. Couldn’t fathom drawing conclusions right now.
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I only say it because you have great insight when you’re not frustrated by the opinions around you on this board.

    Wilson played a below average game against a bad defense. We shouldn’t be satisfied with that.
     
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  4. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    NVM
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The concerning part is that he didn’t have any of those flashes like we saw against the Titans. He had the deer in headlights look all game long, even once the heavy waves settled down.

    By the same account, wins matter. Good on him for making sure to secure the win.
     
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  6. CaptainCap

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    One more win than last year. Week 16 battle of the No.1 vs No.2 draft picks.:eek:
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Whatever else, I think we can say the Jets aren't the worst team in the league.
     
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  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    I’m not frustrated at all. I am walking out of this thread with the exact same mindset I walked into it with. He had a terrible first half back after four weeks off with an injury and then did exactly what he was asked to do in the second half. I don’t care about the numbers because the game plan smartly shifted towards the running game for most of the second half and he barely threw a pass in the fourth quarter because he didn’t have to. you mentioned it in another post but I don’t care that he didn’t have any flashes like he did on the Titans game because he didn’t have to. And that to me is a good sign. He did exactly what we wanted, he took what the defense gave him and he didn’t force any terrible throws outside of the absolute bonehead pick.

    and really a lot of credit should be going to MLF for calling a fantastic game outside of the last series that led to the final field goal. He made it easy on his rookie quarterback who is trying to work his way back into playing in the NFL on the road against a team that plays cover two and had 10 takeaways in the last two weeks. i’m not going to call it a 180 but the guy has done a solid 110, 130 from the beginning of the season and I have to believe that calling the game from the booth is making up at least 75% of that.
     
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  9. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Zach looked like dogshit all game, why sugarcoat it? If this is what he is, and there’s scant evidence he’s something more, the Jets better be looking to move on sooner rather than later.
     
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  10. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    See, these are the exact posts I meant. Love it.
     
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  11. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Fully expected this to be the case and I think it was pretty clear watching him operate. Super tentative to do almost anything that could get him hit. I also fully believe that the interception was a business decision. A costly one but absolutely a business decision.
     
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  12. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    It's great that LaFleur is no longer considered part of the problem.
     
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  13. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    I guess you’ve got the bar set to where you can finally see over it if you stand on your tippy toes.
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets gave Zach about 20 competitive reps (against other teams) in camp. They spit him out on the field game one with literally no idea how he was going to perform other than their fantasies that he was worth a top 2 draft pick.

    The coaches responsible for his development were all rookies themselves in the positions they held with the Jets.

    Those coaches all came from an organization that has flipped and flopped back and forth between their potential QB's for several seasons due to injuries with some talent questions also in the mix there.

    Whether or not Zach was ever going to be an NFL caliber QB the Jets basically managed every decision around him from the worst possible angle and made the chances of his ultimate success worse with each one.

    There are no adults in the house at this point to rectify the problems and again that is going to make things worse.
     
  15. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    My problem.

    Several times. Several, several times during the game. I found myself saying...

    "If Joe Flacco was In there, this offense would be looking completely functional right now."

    That Isn't a good sign from an observational perspective as a NYJ fan. I shouldn't be thinking about our backups being the better option at this juncture. IDK.

    I realize people think I'm just a Wilson hater. That's fine.

    Darnold gave me more hope his rookie year. Seriously. From an unbiased perspective, that's the truth. That truth, stinks.
     
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  16. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    If that’s what makes you feel better about riding a week to week wave of emotions when history and logic dictate a QB can indeed get better after the first 5 games of his career, sure.
     
  17. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Bills should have stuck with Tyrod
     
  18. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    I’d have to agree. Obviously he’s been shaky to say the least but he’s played 6 whole games on a rebuilding team with below average protection. Coming from a college which isn’t exactly an NFL 101 prototype.

    He really shouldn’t of started right away I don’t care if he’s the #2 pick….
     
  19. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    The biggest issue IMO is he was asked to start on day 1 behind an OL that had 2 new faces and an offense that wasn't established yet.
     
  20. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Until then why such a hard on when people point out the glaringly obvious—that there’s precious little (like none) evidence he’s gotten better.
     
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