I'm thinking scouting is somewhat like investing where you're often better off doing nothing at all. Most people who actively trade stocks end up underperforming the broad indices over a long enough time period. There are some NFL teams that consistently draft better than others but they're few and far between, just like how it's rare for most money managers to outperform buy and hold strategies over the long run. The Jets seem to fall into the category of people who try really hard while consistently being convinced they're doing smarter things than everyone else. They're the day trader who buys high and sells low over and over and never steps back to realize they've underperformed the S&P 500 over the last 20 years. The Jets should've realized long ago that unless they miraculously stumble upon the next Ozzie Newsome they're better off just stockpiling draft picks and gaining an edge that way.
The last three games the jets have given up over 500 yards in each game. That same time frame also represents a significant uptick in Davis on the field as safety. No, it is not all on Davis, but it also is no coincidence either.
I'd argue 3 good plays and you're talking out of your ass about Davis. You're semi mocking people about looking at a few plays... While literally pointing to 2-3 plays to say he's good. Tackles can be meaningless, and they are when he has to brace himself 10-15 yards away from the runner so he doesn't get embarrassed. You study the game, I'm not going to sit here and say I have an inch of knowledge compared to you. But Davis has been awful every chance he's gotten minus 3 plays.. the 2 fumbles and his tackle that saved a TD.. but again he braces himself 15 yards away from the runner to have a chance to stop him. He's afraid of contact, he isn't good at coverage, and I can't confirm it but there's seems to be a theme where he's way underneath a long pass and it's right in the area you imagine he should be covering. There's plenty of evidence, if you watch so much film you should see it. Just because other people don't have the time, or want, to rewatch a game in addition to the time it takes to write posts like yours (sometimes with video evidence) doesn't mean there's no proof. Idk, also to say nobody has a clue unless they watch the all 22 tape, you and maybe 2-3 other people on this board will watch is smug as shit. You can definitely get a sense of how a player played by watching the game... You're basically saying 98 percent of people's opinions, who watch football, are clueless...If you can't see anything during the game, that's your problem.
Braden Mann was awful his rookie year and one of the worst punters in the league. You don't get a lot of credit as a GM after burning a draft pick on a bad punter just because he's still on the team. Becton was arguably the 4th tackle and we had the chance to take the 3rd one. The top three are all studs although 2/3 also can't stay on the field. The Covid limitations is nonsense. Plenty of teams walked away with more good players than we did.
The Jets fan infatuation with defending bad draft picks simply because a guy we desperately want to be a good GM took them is mind blowing sometimes. Mims + Davis are awful. Perine, Clark and Zuniga have all struggled to even be activated and Mann was one of the worst punters in the league last year.
Um no I didn't say anyone was right or wrong. I said people were talking out their ass because they don't have any actual way to say whether he was good or bad. When I go back and review the film I'll see if he was good or bad but as of now it's emotional fans based on a few plays vs PFF who while not perfect has at least seen the film more then us. Maybe they are right maybe not, but people trashing him have 0 actual basis. that was my only point. I might agree he sucked and PFF was completly wrong but I won't know until i actual watch the film and key in on him. Which is all i'm saying should be done instead of people talking out of their ass
Ok, well understand 99 percent of the people you interact with on any forum aren't going to watch the tape you see. And probably 95 percent of the entire base of football fans won't either. It's lonely at the top.
Saying that people have no basis for saying a player played poorly is so insulting to their ability to watch and dissect football games in real time.
Wow just wow Yeah other teams are scared to throw in Ashtyn Davis’ direction hahaha. Makes perfect sense
The Jets gave up 532 yards of total offense, primarily in between the hashes. But the starting safety that's been awful in every he's played and played 98% of the snaps had a great game.
I would add Byrce Huff and Guidry to that list as they were both signed as UDFAs immediately after the draft and should be considered as part of the 2020 draft class.
Funny, Davis had 10 tackles and two FFs vs the Colts. That doesn't sound or look like dogshit to me. Does he need to improve? Yes. He was a known project when drafted, and has missed a lot since he was drafted. He's got too much talent to give up on this quickly. Does your wife have the hots for Davis or something? You've been harping on him nonstop, and you're more critical than anyone else here or in the media regarding Davis.
I disagree. The irrationality here with you and others regarding the Jets' past is sad. Just because our previous GMs couldn't draft to save their ass, doesn't mean that JD is or will be the same. In fact, his two drafts have added more talent than Mac's, Bradway's and Idzik's put together, and he's done as well or better than Tanny without trading up. He's added a lot of talent via FA and trades too.
Let's be real, Mosley had one of those fumbles. I'm all for time, I egg on people who demanded change 1 or 2 games into the season... But Davis is awful. He just is. If he turns it around I'll be the first one in line for crow soup... But what he shows everytime on the field is someone who is way too lost and scared to ever make it in the NFL
Why is Douglas exempt from the unwritten rule that says everyone must prove himself? The proof is found on the scoreboard; there are no moral victories.
Why can't people see or understand that teams torn down and being rebuilt are not going to win many games in this period? When you understand the latter; then your question will have its answer. Or we could just keep being the Jets and sacking everybody and continuing this cycle for the rest of our days.
Yep..if we are winning games a GMs scrutiny is mostly set aside..so is the HC for that matter You keep us winning your a hero in this Town like Mike White
