yet people are shitting on ashtyn. he did take a bad angle 1 play and also got beat 1v1 on a pass play pretty badly but outside those 2 plays was pretty good. he also forced 2 fumbles. With that said it's way too early to judge the draft class but so far 1) becton - all the makings of a FLT but needs to stay healthy which is a concern 2) mims - still iffy on mims but most WRs take 3 years to develop. he's only in year 2 and missed time due to injury as a rookie and missed time in the offseason as well. He needs to work on catchng with his hands and route running but potential is still there 3) davis - injury issues again and still needs the mental part down but very athletic and has made some nice plays as we seen here. likely a starter going forward for us and replacing maye in 2021 3) Zuniga - iffy on him. hasn't played much because we are kinda deep at o-line but did get a sack last week in his 1st game. I don't think he'll pan out as a 3rd rounder but seems like a solid depth piece for us at least 4) perine - sucks. suprised he's on the team still. carter and johnson and cole and adams are all better. 4) morgon - was waived and decided to leave instead of stay on the PS. likely bust but bad pick as he isn't a jet anymore already 4) clark - can't judge. hasn't seen the field as a rookie and been injured and on IR. maybe next year he can be a solid piece but right now N/A 5) Hall - seems like a steal and is becoming a legit CB1 for us already 6) Mann - very solid punter as a rookie. on IR this season but should be our punter for the next decade so hard to complain As far as I see we got FLT (barring injury) Solid depth WR at worse but maybe potential starter Solid starting safety CB1 P for a decade not bad but really shouldn't be judged until after next year. Also you can add UDFAs jeff smith who has contributed well and guidry who is a solid dime back for us
Davis would get blown the fuck up if he played closer to the line though. He is small and shies away from contact. -- He is everything you don't want in a safety. Good safeties always want to stick their nose in the play, they play downfield and they make their presence known. Ashtyn Davis backs up at the point of contact. Really makes you wonder about Joe Douglas' evaluation skills because he doesnt look like he belongs on an NFL field
he was literally our highest graded player from PFF in the game. Why do so many people see 1 bad play and then talk out of their ass over it? You realize he also caused 2 fumbles?
Those same people may not understand football so…they can keep laughing. Coaches should move him closer to the action and see, maybe that would help. Or the LB’s attack better, or the DLine do their jobs as well.
NFL coaches dont understand football but PFF does by the way Jets defense torched relentlessly 3 weeks in row, coincidentally just happens to be the only 3 weeks Ashtyn Davis has seen all the snaps. But he's got that PFF thing going for him
because as fans they look at maybe a bad play or 2 and think someone stunk meanwhile you know they didn't the other 80 snaps. I already know the answer but did you specifically watch davis every snap and how he did? of course not, you can't even see him 90% of the time.
Speaks to how bad he is as a safety that he...we... can watch the other team run right by him for 45 points and not notice him out there for 90% of the game. Its funny that you are getting on people citing a bad play or 2 when I havent even seen that. Most people here realize he sucked the whole game. YOU are the only one citing 2 plays here, the "2 forced fumbles." Both on plays that resulted in Colts 1st downs by the way (he got credit for Mosley's FF anyway)
You don't notice him because he's not in view of the normal broadcast cameras. Not to mention when watching a game we are all watching the ball, not the off ball players. You have to watch the all 22 to track him and that isn't released yet until later tonight or tomorrow so again, unless you have some kind of instant access to the all 22 which I know you don't, you are talking out of your ass and doubling down on it
hahaha exactly... he's nowhere near the ball! The sign of a bad safety. It would be one thing if the ball carrier/receivers were being stopped at line so his services weren't needed. But of course we know that wasn't the case last night -- Jets play Buffalo next week. If Jordan Poyer is healthy and plays, check him out. It will be impossible to watch 90% of the game and not notice him. His nose is in every pile, and nearly every pass play that gets broken up downfield.
People are shitting on him because he's a god awful player. I'm not even going to call him a football player, because he isn't one. He's a track and field guy that runs really fast around the field but never where he's supposed to be running. The whole point was that PFF is shit, which it is.
that makes no sense. the camera only focuses on a small portion of the field. the safeties are rarely in it. you also don't know his assignments as after the snap you can't see him or the WRs or the CBs and sometimes LBers too. the broadcast follows the ball, not off ball players which is why you need the all 22s to see how he's doing. it's literally impossible right now for you to even comment on how he played with the film we have access to yet you still keep digging in with 0 proof of your asinine comments. You look really bad right now but of course don't see it
again literally 0 evidence you can provide of this other then he's a player some hate so they blame him for everything. nobody has access to see how he did currently outside of professionals. People who pay for that access will have it later today and i'll sure as hell do a davis breakdown to see if PFF is right or wrong. I'm not saying he did great, i'm saying that as of now not a single person here can say he was bad or good with the access we have to film currently but it's not stopping fans from the typically dumbness. just like it was fire MF a few weeks ago. I said everything on film is good. his playcalling is good we just arne't executing. sure enough last 2 weeks with vet QBs and the o-line being a little better our offense looks damn good and now people are eating their words. the issue is too many people speak up with 0 info out of pure emotion and sound dumb and people who use reason and film have to deal with this nonsense. I know myself and a few others put lots of hours into it as a hobby because we enjoy it, then we try to discuss it and people who have no clue just make up dumb stuff
As did we. Mekhi Becton was one of the highest rated players in the 2020 draft. Bryce Hall is one of the highest rated corners in the league right now. Braden Mann is our starting punter who is dealing with a freak injury. Denzel Mims is still up in the air. So in his first draft with COVID limitations, he drafted 3 starters on the roster. That's not a draft with impact players?
No you are jsut talking to someone reasonable. I'm not even saying you are wrong or that PFF is right. I'm saying nobody on here as of now has the access to even make that call. and anyone who does is just making it up and pulling it out of their ass
Well let's use some logic here... this is what Davis's season looks like so far: In other words, he's been terrible. Then when you take into account what everyone... or I guess almost everyone... saw last night and you can pretty soundly reach the conclusion that Ashtyn Davis is grade A dogshit.
Good god, I deleted that Hall post without posting yesterday, I went and double checked, so god knows how it has appeared in that post that has no actual relation to it lol
so he let up 176 yards. the jets have allowed 2200 passing yards this season. that means davis let up 8%. where is the other 92%? he's one of 7 players that could cover (not counting the d-line) on any given play. Now I know he's only played in the past few games but he's played 266 snaps. lets say half are rushing snaps that's 133. he's targeted 1 out of every 10 plays roughly. So are you saying 90% of the time his coverage is good and teams don't target him?Stats w/o context mean nothing. what if the d-line had no rush and the QB had 8 seconds to throw? what if it wasn't his man but he tried to cover down for a blown assignment? 13 receptions allowed in 266 snaps is isn't awful by any means. for comparison. jalen ramsey considered the best cover CB in the NFL has allowed 15 catches for 126 yards on 26 attempts. stats w/o context is menaingless. it's why coaches watch film and don't just look at numbers
