2014 NBA Playoffs Thread

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  1. soxxx

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    I disagree, if ya look at it, if Bosh leaves then they can pull it off. Melo would still have to take less than he would in NY. Word on the street is that Bosh wants to take a bigger role at this point in his career and does not want to be the 3rd guy. Lakers seem like the obvious destination as Gasol leaves.
     
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    Lol, such a child. I think he means his community college is struggling and maybe they'd consider selling their Quidich team for $5B.

    Lol.

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    They have no interest in paying them obviously but if the players get unionized they can demand to get paid.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Jordan was limited to endorsements during his career, and then branched out into a movie that had legit success, but wasn't a jailbreaker.

    Lebron has so many avenues to market himself in now that people are falling over giving him money. He is also savvy enough to understand that he doesn't have to be a loner. He's attached himself to so many popular names, it's social networking made corporate. Jordan never had those types of opportunities. Given time, Jordan will look like a pioneer, but that is it. Lebron will be looked at like the guy that invented viral marketing in the NBA.
     
  5. JStokes

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    Ok, who pays the women's swimming team? The wrestling team? The Cross Country team?

    Do starters get more than 3rd stringers? What if the 1st and 2nd stringers get hurt? Does the 3rd stringer get a pay increase? Are the payments guaranteed? Does Texas get to pay it's players more than Texas Tech? They have more $$, they should right? Then who would go to Texas Tech? Lesser players. That get paid what now--lesser amounts?

    You seem to have thought this all through.

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    Well when football gets banned from all colleges due to head injuries, they are all going to regret not selling the team, and you will be admitting that I was right all along
     
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    I don't feel incredibly confident saying that I disagree because it's very possible you may be right. The social media aspect does open bigger doors for him. But I am not about to agree with you because like I said I don't think he is as likable. But you might not be wrong.

    These are the types of conversations I love. It's like we are discussing a stock to invest our future in that we both feel will be lucrative but one of us is more bullish than the other.
     
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    Marketing himself can't be the homerun that propels him WAY past Jordan. At some point there is going to be market saturation. We can only buy so much Lebron stuff--it's going to be the investments he makes that will propel him past Jordan. And condisering Jordan already owns a major sports franchise--he has a huge leg up.

    Bono is worth $1.8B, the rest of the U2 band are each worth about $900 million a piece. Because Bono bought into Facebook at an early stage and when it sold, he cashed out about $900 million.

    That's what Lebron would have to do. But Jordan could STILL do that also.

    Lebron may end up a billionaire--I wouldn't be surprised if jordan was worth $2B someday.

    Neither of them are going to be Russian oligarchs worth $20B.

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    I will admit that you are a moron. No disrespect to true morons, mind you.

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    Go read the Georgia Guidestones.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    LeBron WILL end up as a billionaire, the question is whether he does it before he retires or shortly after.

    He'll also likely be part of an ownership group on a team and likely branch out into other ventures.

    Like him or hate him, he is the Jordan of this era, the best player in the world, and the NBA has made him their standard bearer.

    He's a smart guy, he's going to end up a legend, and legends make money years after they stop being in the spotlight. And money in 2014 and beyond is far more valuable than money in the 80s and early 90s.
     
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    Do they involve lizards or aliens being our forefathers?

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    Likely?

    What about "already"?

    Jordan's money is money he is making in 2014 and beyond--from the Hornets and Nike and all his other endoresments and investments. That money from the 80s and 90s affored him the ability to buy the Hornets.

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    You think its a joke? good for ya, gives me more power because I am not going to be the one getting eaten.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That money in the 80s and 90s is chump change compared to what Lebron has made in basketball money alone before the age of 30.
     
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    Forget about the 80s and the 90s. It is irrelavant.

    Right now Jordan's net worth is anywhere from 3 to 5 or 6 times Lebron's net worth.

    Jordan makes approximately $100 million a year and Lebron only about $75 million--so Jordan will continue to outearn Lebron and increase his net worth advantage.

    PLUS he already owns a major sports franchise.

    Lebron would have to (i) start to significantly out earn Jordan on on annual basis (where again, he is eanring significantly less) and (ii) buy a huge property for an undervalued amount--and there aren't going to be any of those left.

    Lebron may become a billionaire by the time he retires and at that time Jordan may be a multi-billionaire.

    Selling Beats for $30 million isn't putting Lebron in Jordan's tax bracket.

    Lebron will be a very very wealthy man, but not only won't his wealth make Jordan's wealth look like pocket change, he may never even catch him.

    And what happens if Jordan owns a majority stake in Nike someday? Still think Lebron's money will make Jordan's money look like pocket change?

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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Obviously this argument can't be proven for 20 years, which is probably why you seem so confident in your opinion, but the fact is that Jordan's earnings as a 50+ year old versus Lebron's as a 20-something are irrelevant. Jordan will probably be dead when Lebron is in his 50s.

    They both are market savvy, but Jordan disappeared from basketball at a point where LBJ will be at his height. Jordan again disappeared from basketball after he retired, and we don't know what LBJ is going to do in his future, but if current actions can be taken as future, he will be very involved in marketing himself or others when that happens.

    If you want to make an intelligent argument about this, let me clue you in. Jordan is only making that money because of a couple of 3-peats. Lebron's money making endeavors rely on his ability to duplicate that success. Since he's still pretty young, he has a chance of doing that, but that is a large hurdle to overcome.
     
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    I won't insult your intelligence or suggest you need a clue, but 10 years after Jordan last wore a uniform and 15 years after he last won a championship, Jordan's Nike brand sold close to $2.5 billion last year while Lebron after a 2 peat sold only $300 million. Jordan today is still 10 times more marketable than Lebron and no one hates Jordan while 1/2 the country hates Lebron.

    Jordan's net worth, again is maybe 5x Lebron's and that has absolutely nothing to do with the money he made in the 80s and 90s.

    In fact, Jordan paid his ex in his divorce nearly TWICE the total value of all of his basketball salaries COMBINED. ALL of it.

    What he earned in yesteryear is irrelevant.

    He is a monstrous cash cow TODAY--outpacing Lebron every year.

    AND he already owns an NBA franchise. And he may someday own a controlling stake in Nike.

    Lebron may NEVER catch Jordan and sure hell isn't going to make Jordan's money look like pocket change.

    But he may die, so you have that going for you.

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    And if Lebron doesn't win his 3-peat this year, that'll knock him even further behind.

    Pocket change. Pffffhht.

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    Thank you.

    I didn't want to type out all the details. Lebron's brand is a drop in the bucket compared to the Jordan brand. No other brand in sports will be that large from one individual. I just can't see that happening again.
     

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