Well if the Jets were looking to trade a guy in that front 7 right now Coples would be the logical choice. He's a tweener in a 3-4, too slow to cover well as an OLB and too small to be a particularly good DE. The Jets do play a lot of 3 man fronts and they do tend to pull their DL for defensive backs on the passing downs. The answer last year was that Coples stayed in the game on passing downs as a rush guy, lined up outside or inside. Passing down, Harrison out, Coples up on the front, 5th defensive back in. That's what the Jets did a lot last year. What the Jets would have done on those downs if Barnes was available is unclear.
Agree with everything you said this time but let me take this in a different direction. If the Jets trade a player that is worth something this off season and it's not Coples, who do think would be the best candidate?
It really depends on what the offer is. The Jets are trying to build a team here and trading people disrupts that process unless it's addition by subtraction because the guy is a problem. I think the way I'd put it is the Jets will know when an offer is made that is too good to refuse. If that happens they might trade just about anybody. I highly doubt that such an offer will be made but you never know. One thing to remember about the Jets is that they value having guys who grew up in the area in the mix. They want guys who have ties to the metro area and who want to play here. It's almost a given that if the Jets have a real choice to make in the draft or free agency that they'll break the tie towards the guy they think will want to be a Jet for a long time.
The best candidate to be traded is likely Hill. He has upside but played injured almost every game last year as well as a good part of his rookie year. His knee condition might possibly be chronic and something that might limit or end his career. Proving that he is healthy might be the biggest hurdle in trying to trade him. The second issue might be why would anyone want to trade for him when they could just draft a WR from this years deep class. Our best bet might be a late draft pick or except a pick from the 2015 draft. Kerley might be an option for a trade if we plan to draft a slot receiver rather than extending him next year. The problem with Kerley is similar to Hill in that he was injured most of last year with 2 concussions and the arm injury. He has had injury problems in the past. Unlike Hill he has produced when healthy. The question is Kerley a long term player for us. While he has produced slot receivers are not regarded as very valuable as they easily replaceable, especially in this years draft. The problem for us moving him is that he is one of the few experienced receivers we have which would likely remove any thought of a trade especially for a middle round to late pick. Better just to pick up a comp pick in a couple of years from him when he signs elsewhere in FA down the road. But your right Coples would likely be the player we would trade. Ellis might be another candidate that could bring some value. But his value to the Jets is likely greater than any trade value. Probably the same could be said for Hill and Kerley. But if we draft 2 WRs there may be no room for Hill and best to move him and take what we can get. The question on Hill is simply do the Jets want to invest more reps and another year of development time on him.
There is still a couple good guards out there in Joseph and Wharton. How come no interest there as its a shallow position for us?
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Rex wasn't looking for an OLB on the pick. He was looking for somebody he could move around the front in his various looks. Coples is much better for that role than Jones would have been. Jones wasn't going to line up inside and be an impact player rushing the passer because he wasn't really built for that. He plays at 15-20 lbs under his college weight outside. Coples on the other hand walked into the building at 285 and has gotten down to 265-270. They're just different players used in different roles. Coples is probably not going to be the kind of outside rusher that Jones will be but Jones is never going to line up directly over a guard and push him around either. Rex wanted that.
Probably because the Jets believe they have guard handled for next year barring setbacks with the guys they drafted last year.
Yeah I don't see it anywhere on the Jets Twitter feed Actually the guy above me is right, it was Eric Allen
Just to give everyone an idea: "Changing times: The Jets have 12 draft picks. In Ryan's first three seasons (2009 to 2011), with Mike Tannenbaum as the GM, they had a total of 13."
12 draft picks 5 will be cut and 1st and second rounder will get deals and start,leaving the other 5 to fight it out for the practice squad or depth and 1 of them will be cut to.
I'd be interested in seeing you explain the scenario that makes this happen since the roster is so thin on depth
Everyone keeps screaming from the mountain top that we have "12 draft picks"when we all know we really only have 4 or 5 that might matter
