2014-2015 New York Knicks Thread

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  1. Geno007

    Geno007 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Knicks fans but there not tanking they just suck. I think the Lakers are tanking and that my team. Don't want to give the Suns a draft pick this season if it out of top 5.
     
  2. displacedfan

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    lol like tanking and sucking don't go hand in hand?
     
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  3. Geno007

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    Good point. But the Lakers are tanking because of resting Kobe. What the hell they resting him for?
     
  4. displacedfan

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    Because he's old and was playing terrible when not rested. The team was better when he was OFF The court when he was playing badly. The rest and limiting his minutes makes him more effective
     
  5. displacedfan

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    True Tanking test tonight. Sixers just resting everyone, Fisher trying to counter by playing guys in 10 day contracts. Knicks should win, but never count out the Knicks
     
  6. JetLifeLo

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    Tanking in the NBA is retarded. You're not guaranteed anything but a lottery, which may or may not fall in your favor.
     
  7. Geno007

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    They won 1 game I think without Kobe. But anyway both the Lakers and Knicks suck. Lol
     
  8. displacedfan

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    Teams see the Thunder, Magic, Cavs, Spurs, Wizards, Heat, etc all land top players through the draft.

    You then control the players contract on top of that and it's cheap to start than a FA.

    Tanking makes sense. You aren't guaranteed to make a good choice though, NBA drafts are littered with busts at the top of the draft
     
  9. displacedfan

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    LANGSTON GALLOWAY hits a broken play running 3 to seal the win (or loss depending on how you view the season) for the Knicks against the D League 76ers.

    76ers showing us how the professionals tank
     
  10. BrowningNagle

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    last night's game was sad. The NBA is a better league when the Knicks and 76ers are good. Both GREAT basketball cities.
     
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  11. GordonGecko

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    The problem is that the NBA is a broken league and you can only win the title if you are an elite team. Middle of the road teams have absolutely zero chance unlike in baseball or hockey, but to become an elite team you need stars. There's not enough basketball stars to go around so your only chance is in the draft, and your team will never get that chance unless it finishes almost dead last.

    NBA is so messed up
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Heave ho 2 in a row
     
  13. JetLifeLo

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    NBA been fell off...i agree. They Stern should have rejected more trades like the CP3 to the Lakers deal.Spurs and OKC the only teams that really built through the draft..the rest were just big cities taking all the big name players.. boring. 4 power houses and 20 something teams that know they have no chance at winning unless they snag a superstar
     
  14. BrowningNagle

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    It's not the trades at all - - Its the max contract that's the problem. Because players are capped at a certain figure you can buddy him up with other stars.. couple that with the lame "buddy buddy" atmosphere of the players and you have these couple mega teams and everyone else.

    Let the players all that what they want and still have a salary cap and you would have a league like the NFL with more parity and more distribution of superstars. Keeping a LeBron James for example would mean you wouldn't be able to afford a Kevin Love or a Dwayne Wade or a Chris Bosh to go with him.

    I don't blame the teams for tanking I blame the league and its structure. For teams that don't have the mega "buddy buddy" team the quickest way to the top is to draft the next greatest thing - sign him to a max contract when the time comes and pair him up with other superstars. The Knicks are closer yet because they already have one max contract superstar. Draft "next sliced bread" and pair him up with another superstar FA and they could go from last to first overnight.
     
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  15. displacedfan

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    Couple thoughts:

    One, media/fans basically tell athletes rings or bust. So why not team up with someone to help expedite getting a ring? Kind of what old players do except players are thinking about it sooner.

    Two, abolishing the max contract has been talked about, nobody understands the ripple effects of it and how it would impact how a team is built, small/large market (NBA wants small market teams but numbers show if the Lakers or Knicks are good, more people watch). Also, one year into that, a bad owner would have WAY overpaid a player without the max holding them back, then that owner would be complaining and trying to get out of paying that player and wanting an out clause for their own mistake.

    Three, the whole mega team thing is kind of overblown this year. You have all 8 seeds in the West potentially having a chance to make the finals because nobody truly knows what to make of the Warriors. Then in the East you have that one buddy buddy team in CLE, but then more "naturally" made teams in CHI, ATL, TOR, and WAS.

    The Spurs tanked for what they got and drafted well. The Thunder, draft picks. Warriors, draft picks. Rockets, trades. Mavs, who really knows. Grizzlies, homegrown/technically a trade when Pau was switched for Marc. Blazers, draft picks.

    I'm sure I missed teams, but the whole buddy buddy thing is overblown because of Lebron.
     
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  16. NYGalPal

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    Hey Knicks don't go ruining our #1 draft position chance.
     
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  17. displacedfan

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    3 in a row. WOW

    Langston Galloway.

    Melo is struggling, just trying to reach the AS game and then I think he'll get surgery and shut it down
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Once Melo has the surgery, plus Calderone's Injury, we may not win again
     
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  19. Yisman

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    Hornets were without Kemba Walker, Byombo (injured early on) and Marvin Williams (injured early on)

    they beat the Knicks anyway, 76-71

    college score
     
  20. displacedfan

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    Knicks without Melo, so the score makes sense.
     

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