2014-15 NCAA Basketball Thread

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    what a compelling argument. I love the excuses for duke and I assume you predicted they'd lose in the 1st rd those years since you could see how flawed they were?

    Carolina has only played in 2 NITs, one in the awkward transition from Dean Smith eventually to Roy Williams and the other after winning a Nat'l title then losing a ton of guys early and having a ton of key injuries.

    I suggest you start paying attention to college basketball and maybe thumb through some history books the last 20 years about the greatness of duke basketball. and while you are at look up duke and sociology degree, Corey Maggette, Lance Thomas, etc...
     
  2. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    I predicted the same losses for Gonzaga, Was I wrong?
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    what does that have to do w/ duke?
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Gonzaga is rated at the same elite level as Duke every season. Should they not be held at the same standards?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    no they aren't.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    They aren't annually ranked among the Pre-Season Top 10 the same way Duke is?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Duke is Annually ranked in the Pre-Season Top 10. So is Gonzaga. Duke is often given a 1 or 2 seed in all Bracket Projections, so is Gonzaga.

    In 2013 Gonzaga was a 1 Seed, Duke was a 2 Seed.

    Yer somehow, according to you: "duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not."
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    duke is expected to make the FF going into each season, Gonzaga is not. Gonzaga is not always in the top 10.

    preseason AP poll last 10 seasons:

    Gonzaga in top 10:
    2015(2014-15 season): nope
    2014: nope
    2013: nope- not in top 20
    2012: nope- not in top 20
    2011: nope
    2010: not ranked at all
    2009: 10th
    2008: nope
    2007: not ranked at all
    2006: 8th

    2 times ranked in the preseason top 10, never higher than 8th.

    duke in same stretch:

    2015: 4th
    2014: 4th
    2013: 8th
    2012: 6th
    2011: 1st
    2010: 9th
    2009: 8th
    2008: not in top 10
    2007: not in top 10
    2006: 1st

    2 times not ranked in top 10. Perception is not always reality.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Nice DOdge, Try again:

    In 2013 Gonzaga was a 1 Seed, Duke was a 2 Seed.

    Yer somehow, according to you: "duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not."
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I like you Hackett but please don't call out others when you are wrong again.

    this was your quote:
    just admit you are wrong and move on.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    and if you want to go by seeding:

    last 10 years:

    2005: duke 1 seed, Gon 3
    2006: duke 1, Gon 3
    2007: duke 6, Gon 10
    2008: duke 2, Gon 10
    2009: duke 2, Gon 4
    2010: duke 1, Gon 8
    2011: duke 1, Gon 10
    2012: duke 2, Gon 7
    2013: duke 2, Gon 1
    2014: duke 2, Gon 8

    avg seed: duke 2 Gonzaga 6

    only one time did Gonzaga have a 2 seed or better, only 1 time did duke NOT have a 2 seed or better

    can we stop w/ this silly argument please?
     
  13. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    As soon as you stop throwing meaningless figures and answer the actual question:

    In 2013 Gonzaga was a 1 Seed, Duke was a 2 Seed.

    Yer somehow, according to you: "duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not."
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    This has to be a goof. you got me. congrats Hackett, I apologize for taking your posts on this seriously.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely not. You are entirely missing my point, and as usual, you are dodging the question by using tons of irrelevant information in attempt to shield the futility of your argument.

    Straight out of the junc playbook.

    Your quote" "duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not."
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    You were serious??????


    look at that quote then look at the preseason rankings. show me where Gonzaga has been considered a FF contender not even annually but just the majority of time? your perceptions do not meet the reality of the situation.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    And ANOTHER classic dodge by junc. You must have been one hell of a dodgeball player in gym class.

    Again.. YOUR quote : "duke is annually considered a FF contender, Gonzaga is not."
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you may want to have someone read my posts and translate them for you.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    And you may need to pick up a good book and learn about College Basketball
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I love to learn but I love to learn the right things. I am not going to learn from someone seeing Gonzaga as a 1 seed one time in 10 years and saying that means they are annually a FF contender.
     

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