:rofl2: youdont quit! If this was Genos second year, id see it 3-1 For Geno I think if Sanchez goes less than 3-1, and theres an offensive issue, he should be looking over his shoulder... I do think, Sanchez has a better than 50% shot, because of the way it plays out, at getting all four. I think either QB has a better than 50% shot at Gillette, because thats the one Rex wants to pin his defense on. Write it down. Thats Richardsons coming out party.
Yeah. I think that Thursday night is going to show us, if Rex can recreate anything like his Father did with the Bears....or like what he did in Baltimore.
We have a new offense and a bunch of new players on defense and we are already predicting the outcome of games? Maybe we should wait to see how they play in pre-season at least.
You are very seriously underestimating both the Buccaneers and the Patriots. I'll remind you that the Jets will still be adjusting to a new play system and while the Jets even in down years have beaten the Patriots from time to time, seldom do the Jets do it on the Patriots home turf. Since 2009 the Jets are 3-6 against the Patriots, including Post season, which isn't far off from their w/l percentage since 2000 which is 9-19. As long as Brady is the QB of the Patriots they are a deadly team, it doesn't matter what personel they put around him, he will raise the performance level of the team. (that's what truly good QB's do you know, raise the play of their teamates.) Your also very under estimating the Buccanneers who substantially improved their defense and already had a top half to top 1/3 of the league offense, on paper anyways they've substantially improved their defense, far more than the Jets have improved their offense. The Bills are the wild card and the most winnable of the first 3 games on the schedule, but if the offense is sputtering at all for the Jets how bad the Buffalo defense is won't matter because they do figure to have one hell of an offense. Unlike the Jets they jettisoned their underperforming over paid QB, and he even performed slightly better than Sanchez the last 4 seasons. The Tennesee game the Jets should probably win, though it will be tougher than people are saying. You scoff at Pittsburgh, but only a fool discounts Pittsburgh. The Falcon's aren't a great team? Not an all time great no, but they're easily one of the best 5 teams in the league currently. I agree with the saints, they're probably in for a rough year, but they've got a very dangerous QB and a dynamic play calling head coach. One thing 6 of the 9 teams we play have that the Jets don't have, very good QB's.
I'm betting the Jets win one of those games too but I'm not sure which one. The Saints are a real possibility also. The road games are just going to be really tough unless somebody looks past the Jets in a big way. The Bengals are in a really tough stretch of games when they play the Jets at home. Two on the road before and then right back on the road to the Fins and Ravens after. They might get caught looking. The Patriots have the Fins and Steelers the two weeks after the Jets but the rivalry is so strong that I think they can't look past the Jets.
Sanchez is better than Freeman, the Bills eventual starter, and lockyer. Personally, I think you...and many others, underestimate the change in the offense due to having a competent OC. Rex produces top 5 defenses. Marty, top 10 offenses. If MM gets the Jets any better than 15 overall this team, will be better than all but 4 on the schedule and they should be in the 11 win neighborhood. Again. You saw last year. Team won six with an offense that was somewhere between bad high school, and bad Div.III. Hill, Holmes missing 20 games. No OC. The improvement by health and coaching alone...should be substantial. P.s. claiming Firzpatrick outperformed Sanchez, is ....:rofl2:
I know they are not star studded, but I cannot believe an accomplished OC like MM will put out a product that averages 13 points a game next year.
I'd figure the Jets for 6 wins if they averaged 18 points a game from all sources next season. That'd be a slight step up from where they were last year overall. The reason I'd give them 6 wins at that number, which is a high estimate for most teams, is Rex's defense winning a game at some point even when the offense failed to get it done. Last year the Jets expected W-L based on their points scored vs points allowed was 5.4 wins and 10.6 losses. The Jets got the extra six tenths of a win somewhere between the Fins kicker missing two game winning kicks in the first meeting and the Jets managing to beat the Cardinals 7-6 because the Cardinals put a young bad QB on the field. Next year if they scored 288 points I'd expect them to win 6 games more honestly.
Is it really that strong? I hate the Patriots as much as anybody, but I think it may have diluted a bit over the last two years. After the Buttfumble game, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they looked past us in Week 2.
I think you severly over estimate the ability of the Jets offense. Reminder, prior to Sanchez Schotty had a top 15 offense all 3 years, and a top 10 offense two of the years. 3 years with Sanchez, well lets just say only better than 20th once. Yes last years team was 6-10, the prior years team with a top 5 defense was 8-8. and while I like MM, his resume as a play caller isn't sparkling..his most successful years were with Andy Reid calling the plays...Andy Reid is in Kansas City. MM has had some success, no doubt. However to make him out as an offensive whiz kid is placing far more optimism than his track record as a play caller. As OC for the 49ers Garcia had his best season the year before MM became the OC. MM will be a good OC, but to claim he has a track record as an OC posting top 10 offenses is misleading since Reid usually called the plays in Philly's games.
But I will say this Hobbes, your eternally optimistic. RE: Sparano from Hobbes last year. From the not Schitty see the difference thread. A thread started by Hobbes praising Sparano. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=2563759&postcount=1 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=2564161&postcount=3 This whole thread calling out the schotty defenders is priceless. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=73963&highlight=Sparano pricelss quote http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=2563203&postcount=27 "When we hang 28 on buffalo today, the story will be how the buffalo defense played poorly. It amazes me how none of the experts have ruminated on the offensive upgrade Sparan represents over Schottenheimer. " Now MM should be better than Sparano, however....he still might have to work with Sanchez. Can it happen, sure. But the odds are not great.
Lets just start with the last link, shall we? With a healthy supporting cast..,we didnt hang 28 on buffalo. i was wrong. We put 48 on them. (and, one quick question, if you have the balls to be honest, werent those posts PRIOR to Holmes,Hill and Keller being injured ?) In your effort to make a sarcastic point, you undercut your entire argument. :rofl2: P.S. how did Schotty the miracle worker do against a defense hes known for several years..,oh, roght..,he got fucking hammered. Sanchez, otoh. Went 15/20, and didnt need to throw a pass for the last 9 minutes of that game. In terms, of Schotty v. Sparano...2011, moore comes in to consult, the jets finish 2nd in RZ efficiency, yet about 25 overall in offense, win 8 games. 2012, jets have 3 key players miss about 30 combined games on ofdense, (keller,Holmes,hill) jets win 6. Its one thing to say you think I am Wrong about some point, but going out of your way to look like an idiot to make it personal, is stupid. Gee...I underestimated how bad we would blow out buffalo week one. i dont know which is more pathetic, that you didnt realize that, or that you thought it was a point worth bringing up.... You should REALLY get that extra chromosome checked out. Priceless quote...? Hobbes was wrong...the Jets hung 48 on Buffalo, not 28. What a fucking idiot. :rofl2: Home depot called, they need you back in the TOOL aisle. And FWIW, i dont make a habit of attacking other posters, though for some reason I seem to invite it..but..if thats your thing,, at least make me embarass you instead of embarassing yourself. P.S. who wipes the drool off of your shoelaces after you tie them?
Going with the OP, call me crazy, but I have a feeling that we'll have a flex-in matchup against the Panthers.
No as 20 others have said, they did not. They DID, however get the best rated QB in the draft. People were high on Luck, but nobody expected him to have the season he did. My point was that sometimes you never know. What seems like trash can become treasure. Colts were ranked near last prior to the start of last season. People didn't expect them to get it together so quick and they did. I'm feeling good about this young Jets team. It seems different to any team we've had in a while. Time for 'luck' to swing our way for once. There's nowhere to go but up from our current position.
It's the NFL which means from year to year anything is possible. There's only 16 games so unlike baseball and basketball, the cream doesn't always rise to the top during the regular season. A good team could have a rough couple of outings and there goes their postseason chances. A less than good team could get hot and make a postseason push. You just never know heading into a season. In my eyes it's a simple sport outside of the X's and O's. Field a good defense along with a productive quarterback and you're making the playoffs. Field a lackluster defense along with a struggling quarterback and you're buried during a short 16 game season. Injuries are the x-factor. It's disheartening but you just never know when and where injuries will strike, and to whom they'll strike against. Which is why to me, it's impossible to predict an NFL season for a specific team. Injuries can change the entire complexion of a teams success. Who knows about our offense this season (I know I don't) but I do know that we have top 5 defensive potential under coach Ryan. That alone is enough for me to at least look forward to the season.
