2009 TGG'S 3 RD Mock Draft..DiSCUSSIONS ONLY

Discussion in 'Draft' started by WW85, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. -MC-

    -MC- Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,241
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think its a safe bet Jason wont make it in time.
     
  2. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    3,192
    Likes Received:
    0
    I hope I can be here for Atlanta, if not, thanks again WW85 for looking after my board
     
  3. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2003
    Messages:
    3,823
    Likes Received:
    0
    The question is can Andre Smith play in A Denver blocking scheme or would Jason Smith be the better pick. IF A smith was able to play in that system, he probable be a better RT than jason Smith. Thats assuming what Mario Henderso9n did at LT down the stretch was no mirage. NOt a bad pick Hasty.
     
    #143 Raiderjoe, Jan 31, 2009
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
  4. WW85

    WW85 MOCKERATOR
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    13,482
    Likes Received:
    959

    We have a little over 30 minutes.
     
  5. WW85

    WW85 MOCKERATOR
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    13,482
    Likes Received:
    959
    OK guys.......Mr.Electric29 is going to make the Buffalo pick. Then I have Denver's board....and it should start picking up again.....sorry for the delay. If I don't hear from Jason by tonight, I will replace him with a GM that' been around today.
     
  6. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    I took Peria Jerry with the Bills pick - with Orakpo and Brown off the board, no defensive ends were worthy of being selected this high.

    I thought about a receiver or a tight end, but I didn't want to reach on the TE and none of the available receivers fit the Bills' style. Lee Evans already fills a similar role to the guy I was looking at.

    Jerry should improve the Bills' interior pass rush and he's an upgrade over Kyle Williams.

    Peria Jerry and Marcus Stroud form a nice DT tandem...
     
  7. WW85

    WW85 MOCKERATOR
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    13,482
    Likes Received:
    959
    Buffalo's pick is in!

    Draftafullback is on-line, waiting for his pick.
     
  8. -MC-

    -MC- Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,241
    Likes Received:
    0
    Redskins giving up on Campbell?
     
  9. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    Matt Stafford to the Washington Redskins? Really?

    They are building that franchise around Jason Campbell. I don't like that pick.

    Stafford was definitely the best player available, but the Redskins have no need for him at all.
     
    #149 Mr Electric, Jan 31, 2009
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
  10. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    8,791
    Likes Received:
    2,311

    It makes sense in the Snyder likes to make a splash and is crazy as hell sort of way,
     
  11. Quack

    Quack New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2007
    Messages:
    1,753
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree. Horrible pick. The Skins' don't need a new QB, they need help for Campbell. The things he does with the talent around him are impressive.

    Get the man some protection! I don't care if the top 2 tackles are off the board!
     
    #151 Quack, Jan 31, 2009
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
  12. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    Yeah - Washington needs to rebuild both lines and maybe bring in another receiver to play opposite Santana Moss. That's the path I would've taken with this team...

    I want to see Hasty's explanation.
     
  13. WW85

    WW85 MOCKERATOR
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    13,482
    Likes Received:
    959
    I select Vontae Davis............I would have liked a DE, but not happy with what's available at #15. Dunta R, could be a FA and has nagging injuries.
     
  14. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,964
    Likes Received:
    5,244
    Stafford was too good to pass up at # 13. The Lions should have taken the guy with the first overall pick.

    Much like the Chad Pennington pick in 2000 the Redskins can take their time grooming Stafford while they see what happens with Campbell. Another parallel is the Brady Quinn situation in Cleveland in 2006.

    Also, most of the players that the Redskins would have liked here (the four stud OTs and the defensive players) were already taken.

    I could have taken Cushing or a WR here but the value was very weak compared to Stafford. Rip the selection all you want but I don't see how I could have done better.
     
  15. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,964
    Likes Received:
    5,244
    Like I said, I could have gone with a WR but the Skins took two WRs and a TE in round two last year. If Stafford was gone I probably would have taken a WR but it would have been a slight reach.

    Also with two DTs off the board (and Orakpo) defensive line would not have made sense here.
     
  16. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    3,192
    Likes Received:
    0
    I got some more evidence here as to why I picked who I picked for the 49ers. They need some stability for the players, they want to run first so Stafford would not be the pick

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80e74f4e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

    Singletary, new offensive coordinator Raye have 'shared vision'
    Associated Press


    SAN FRANCISCO -- The first time Jimmy Raye was on the San Francisco 49ers' coaching staff, he didn't even really have a job title. He's coming back 32 years later to take on a title that nobody has kept very long in recent years.

    Raye agreed to terms with the 49ers on Friday to become the club's seventh offensive coordinator in seven seasons.

    The 62-year-old coaching veteran is a somewhat unlikely choice for the 49ers, who needed a full month to fill the vacancy created when coach Mike Singletary fired Mike Martz on Dec. 30 in his first major act after getting the permanent job running the club.

    Singletary, who went 5-4 as an interim coach to finish the 49ers' sixth consecutive losing season, wanted a veteran coordinator who would build his game plans around a sustained running attack. He apparently found what he wanted in Raye, the eighth man to interview for the job last week.

    "It certainly took longer than we would have liked it to, but sometimes good things come to those who wait," Singletary said. "The thing I didn't want to do was go ahead and make a knee-jerk decision and select someone before I thought we had our guy."

    Singletary also hired former Baltimore Ravens assistant Mike Johnson as the 49ers' new quarterbacks coach.

    During more than three decades of NFL coaching experience, Raye has been a coordinator with the Los Angeles Rams, Tampa Bay, New England, Kansas City, Washington and Oakland, where he also was the Raiders' assistant head coach in 2004-05 under Norv Turner. He spent the last three seasons as the New York Jets' running backs coach under Eric Mangini.

    Raye fits Singletary's desire for a coordinator who emphasizes the running game. He was the Rams' coordinator in 1984 when Eric Dickerson rushed for a league-record 2,105 yards.

    Despite their mutual decades of NFL experience, Singletary and Raye hadn't even met until the Jets' trip to San Francisco last month to face the 49ers. Raye admired San Francisco quarterback Shaun Hill's dissection of New York's defense that day, but never imagined he might be joining Singletary until they initially spoke on the phone several weeks ago.

    Mike Singletary finally found a new offensive coordinator a month after parting ways with Mike Martz.

    "We had a shared vision of how you play the game and what we would like to see when the game is played," Raye said. "His passion for football is kind of contagious. That started the mutual understanding between the two of us."

    Raye wasn't Singletary's first choice, however. Former St. Louis coach Scott Linehan turned down the position earlier this month, saying he wasn't ready to commit to his next coaching stop -- only to take the same job with the winless Detroit Lions a few days later.

    San Francisco's offense finished last overall in the NFL in 2005 and 2007 under coach Mike Nolan, but Martz raised it to a level of respectability in 2008. The 49ers scored 339 points after managing just 219 in 2007, also racking up nearly 74 more offensive yards per game.

    But the franchise that redefined offensive football in the 1980s under Bill Walsh has employed a new coordinator in every season since 2003, one year after the 49ers' last trip to the playoffs.

    Raye will be at work in the Bay Area on Wednesday, breaking down game film of last season and formulating a plan. Most of his staff is already in place, including new running backs coach Tom Rathman and offensive line coach Chris Foerster.

    Although Raye doesn't yet know much about the 49ers' personnel beyond running back Frank Gore, he'll be instrumental in choosing the quarterback. Hill isn't guaranteed to be the starter despite his solid play in the second half of the season, while former No. 1 overall draft pick Alex Smith won't return unless he reaches an agreement to drastically reduce his salary.

    Raye might not know all the players, but he knows what Singletary wants him to do.

    "The teams that I've been the leader of as a coordinator have been tough, physical football teams that run the ball and have a physicality about them," Raye said. "The overriding factor is that we want to be tough-minded physically and emotionally."

    Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press
     
  17. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2003
    Messages:
    3,823
    Likes Received:
    0

    I like the pick. Like the chargers showed when they had Drew Brees. They had number 1 Pick
     
  18. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    15,964
    Likes Received:
    5,244
    The top four tackles were off the board. The next one was a huge reach at # 13.
     
  19. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    8,791
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    While not a need you did take BPA here. I was amazed he made it past the Chiefs at 3 and again past San Fran at ten. There is no way that he makes it out of the top 5 at this years draft.
     
  20. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    I would've rather reached with the Skins. Matt Stafford has no place on that team. It's Jason Campbell's team.

    Brady Quinn was selected in 2007 - the exact same season Derek Anderson had a good year with the Browns. Cleveland had a reason to draft a quarterback at that time.

    Also, when you have 4 first round picks, like the Jets did in 2000 - you can draft a quarterback to sit on the bench. Vinny Testaverde was inconsistent and unhealthy.

    The Jets and the Browns needed to make those picks. The Redskins clearly don't.
     

Share This Page