2009-10 World Champion Yankees Offseason Thread

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  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    right on.....somehow it makes sense that you work in a lab
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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  3. mj2sexay

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    Brian Bruney dealt to the Nationals for a PTBNL
     
  4. IATA

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    Nick Pietruszkiewicz:
    Meanwhile, Buster Olney says for the Yankees to get Granderson, it will cost Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson.


    Either Granderson or Halladay. Not both.
     
  5. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    damn, the yankees aren't fucking around.
     
  6. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    The PTBNL in the Bruney deal is going to the be National's first pick in the Rule V draft this Thursday. (Source) (Explanation of how Rule V draft works)

    Granderson is absolutely not worth Hughes & Jackson. Hell, I wouldn't deal either of them individually for Granderson. Jackson has a ton of potential to be better than Granderson, and Hughes has shown he can be an effective ML pitcher.
     
  7. mj2sexay

    mj2sexay Active Member

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    id deal ajax straight for granderson. definitely not jackson and hughes though,
     
  8. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    Are you kidding? What the hell has Jackson proven to be called better than Granderson?
     
  9. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    did you miss the potential part? as in, in the future, not the present.
     
  10. jgangstahippie7:18

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    Oh yeah #1 pick in Rule V draft!
    Any Josh Hamiltons available this year?
     
  11. IATA

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    The D'Backs pushed for a blockbuster three-way deal with the Yankees and Tigers today, only to see one of those two teams veto it, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal would have sent Curtis Granderson to the Yanks and Edwin Jackson to the D'Backs.

    Talks are apparently at an "impasse" now, though the D'Backs continue to push for a trade.

    No word on who the D'Backs would have included.
     
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  12. rhodesfan16

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    I wouldnt want to include A-Jax for anybody unless you have some absolute stud bat available or stud pitcher available I'm not trading him
     
  13. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    It would have been something along these lines: (Source)
    Yanks Receive: Granderson & a couple prospects
    D'Backs Receive: Edwin Jackson, Ian Kennedy
    Tigers Receive: Max Scherzer (D'Backs), Austin Jackson, Phil Coke, Michael Dunn (Yankees)​
     
  14. talisaynon

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    I couldn't care less about Dunn and Coke, but Kennedy and Austin for Granderson?

    Still no. Wake me when he can hit lefties.

    I don't see his "potential" extending beyond Granderson's. He'll hit lefties better, sure, but Granderson hits 20-25 homeruns a season while OPSing sub 800 as a gold glove centerfielder.
     
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  15. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    except Granderson has gotten progressively worse offensively and defensively for the last few seasons.

    UZR/150
    2006: 14.1
    2007: 12.9
    2008: -9.4
    2009: 1.6​

    WAR (Wins Above Replacement)
    2007: 7.4
    2008: 3.8
    2009: 3.4​

    OPS+
    2007: 135
    2008: 123
    2009: 100​

    Jackson was the Yankees top-prospect last season for a reason, he has great potential. He is a "5-tool prospect" which includes potential for average, power, speed, arm strength, & fielding.

    He has shown he can hit for a decent average, excellent speed, excellent fielding, good arm strength, and developing power. One of the reasons for his lack of power last season was because the team was having him focus on driving the ball to the opposite field.

    Like I said in my earlier post, he has the potential to be a similar, if not better, player to Granderson
     
  16. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Granderson is a hell of a fielder though.
     
  17. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    He also gets a lot of triples (althought detroits field is huge)
     
  18. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    The top Yankee prospect last season was Jesus.

    And you're more optimistic about Jackson than I am. I saw Jackson play a few times in Scranton. The dude is short, like 5' 10 short, and I'm not convinced he'll ever "fill out" to reach Granderson's ceiling.

    You're right about the org having him focus about hitting it opposite field though. When I saw him he was David Wrighting the ball instead of waiting for a good pitch to drive.

    Still he really hasn't shown to hit for much power outside one half a season in Tampa, and his abnormally high BABIP inflated an otherwise "okay" season for Jackson.

    Also, after FMart graduated he was the youngest player in the IL. And I'm probably judging him too fast, but we'll see after this season if Jackson ever amounts to anything.
     
  19. talisaynon

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    Fuck, I really don't know if I want that deal. I'm really, really on the fence. :breakdance:

    If I hadn't seen Granderson look absolutely dumb stupid against Coke this year i'd be all for it. Fuck Phil Coke.
     
  20. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    Fielding stats are bullshit. Granderson had less and less of Magglio playing next to him who has no range so whoever was out there had better range and was catching making more plays.
     

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