2009-10 World Champion Yankees Offseason Thread

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  1. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    Am I now allowed to call you names for making that comparison to Abreu?

    (I believe that was your reaction when I made that comparison during the ALCS.)

    Who is Romero? Did you mean Montero? Romine? A Frankenstein hybrid of the two? :smile:

    In any case, they say Montero doesn't project to stay at catcher long-term, and teams will always need a backup. Plus, I'm not sure that Cervelli is good enough to bring back anything worthwhile in a trade. He's an asset to the team as a defensively-skilled, cost-controlled backup at a premium position. I'd just keep him. See what happens.
     
  2. AlioTheFool

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    No, not at all. If you recall, the point I made was that Swisher's numbers compared to Abreu with runners in scoring position were dismal. I agreed that the overall numbers were similar.

    99% of the time I'd say Abreu tops Swisher. The key difference is how Swisher's glove became a huge factor in the Yankees winning the World Series. I'd go so far as to say that no matter how many runs Abreu drove in, if he were in Swisher's place, we would not have won the World Series this year.

    But I have to walk away from the tv when Swisher comes to the plate with runners on. That's not going to change.

    Hahaha, Romero. WTF made me type that? Yeah, I meant Montero.

    Why doesn't Montero project as a catcher long-term? I thought he was the closest to a sure-thing catcher in our system?

    I definitely don't mind keeping Cervelli, I just figure with other catching options on the horizon, there's not going to be any room for him on the roster within the near future.

    Interesting that we're looking at another Molina.
     
  3. mj2sexay

    mj2sexay Active Member

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    Montero might grow out of the position. Very hard to ask a guy with his size to get behind the plate for 130-140 games a year.
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I hope Cashman is awake...not that it matters. The Steinbrenners are and they make all of the important decisions anyway.

    "The Boston Red Sox are ready to deal and they want to see an ace.

    Citing an unnamed source, the New York Daily News reported on Tuesday that the team is "putting on a full-court press" to acquire Roy Halladay from the Toronto Blue Jays.

    "They would love to get it wrapped up before the winter meetings [beginning Dec. 7]," the source said, according to the newspaper."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4687981
     
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  5. talisaynon

    talisaynon Well-Known Member

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    Good. That'd mean they'd give up Buchholz + assorted crap in their system.

    Contrary to popular (ESPN/Peter Gammons et al...) belief, the Boston system is NOT that good.

    In any case, I think it's a load of horse shit. Theo's not the type to make deals like that -- he overrates his prospects way too much.

    He's probably trying to bait Cashman into giving up more than he has to for Halladay.

    Edit: Didn't see your Cashman troll there. :lol: Bravo, don.
     
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  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not a troll..well maybe a little bit but the facts are what they are. Cashman does not have the power to make that kind of decision anymore than he did to make the decisions on Sabathia, Teixiera or Burnett.
     
  7. MBGreen

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    The Jays want the Red Sox to include Casey Kelly in the Bucholz pkg...but the Sox have said Kelly is untouchable........so the "full court press" could be slightly derailed.
     
  8. ace_o_spades

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    The Red Sox are always rumored to put on "full court presses" for top trade targets
     
  9. MBGreen

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    I hope the Jays stick to their guns...and take the best deal possible (I'm sure the Yanks, Angels, and Dodgers will ante up their offers....given the competition for Doc's services).

    I say this...because previous Jay's FO regimes have fucked up so many deals/trades...I've lost all hope. Except the fact this new kid who's the new GM...seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
     
  10. TommyGreen

    TommyGreen Trolls

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    So you basically want to trade your ace for a few prospects that the Jays will just end up trading away anyway?
     
  11. MBGreen

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    I'm actually hoping this franchise is on track with the new regime. We obviously can't "buy" out titles like you clowns.....but maybe...we could go the Tampa Bay Rays route and start re-building through our farm system.


    Once again, I'm not holding my breath.....but that fuckwad, JP Ricciardi is gone..so i guess there's some hope for now.
     
  12. JoeJet

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    Red Sox are holding Yankees head to the fire. Yankees will have to trade Chamberlain or Hughes to get Halladay, otherwise he is going to Boston.
     
  13. MBGreen

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    Chamberlain OR Hughes??....try both.

    The Yanks offered one or the other in the summer and the Jays flat out rejected that deal.

    Make no mistake....Halladay will cost any team "dearly"...especially rival AL East teams.
     
  14. IATA

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    YOu know why it's popular belief? Because it's true. No amount of spin or misdirection can make anyone with a brain think otherwise.


    Jeez. I know that people are fans of teams, but dosen't giving credit where credit is due make you feel better about your own team? The Red Sox have a great farm system, and the Yankees still won a title. The Red Sox had a ton of promise in their starting rotation, and the Yankees still won.

    See, dosen't that make you feel better about your team?
     
  15. Cappy

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    He wasn't incorrect... the emphasis was just on the wrong word. The Sox farm system is not THAT good, compared to how they are touted.
     
  16. talisaynon

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    It's similar to all the hype this year with Boston's starting rotation and their so called 'enviable depth.' Whatever makes you feel better, dude.
     
  17. typeOnegative13NY

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    I say let him go to Boston.
     
  18. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    hahah. "with smoltzy and pennyiey shoring up the rotation weh unstappabaall"
     
  19. kinghenry89

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    I don't think it'll be both...probably Hughes/Jackson or Joba/Montero, plus a second tier prospect to either package.

    In any case I don't think that the Yankees will bite on Halladay. If they didn't trade these guys for Santana while they were prospects and the Yankees were desperate to win now, they won't deal them for Halladay now that they're established MLB pitchers and the Yanks are defending champs. I think that in the end Halladay goes to Anaheim or Chicago.
     
  20. ToonWalker

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    Right now I think it's better than 50/50 that Halladay goes to Boston.

    I just don't see the Yankees as willing to give up too much youth for him. Cashman has been stingy with the blue-chip prospects in the past. He wouldn't make a deal for Santana, who was younger at the time than Halladay is.
     

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