They aren't going to base it on his ERA or how many strike outs he gets. Quality starts is tough as well, what number do you use for a #5 starter who gets less starts to begin with?
It was worded that he can achieve the same salary he got last year. I would assume, but I could be wrong, that it will mean if he turns in a similiar year he will get the same money. Personally, I doubt he will have as bad a year as he did then, especially pitching out of the #5 spot where the competition is generally garbage.
Not this again. If he's not happy in the minors, good. All the more reason to work hard to improve. Do you think he's going to sulk and refuse to pitch? Come on, dude. Not everyone crumples and folds in the face of adversity. What kind of life do you lead that you assume everyone does? Why must everything be emo drama in your world?
1. Why do you keep using this #5 starter line? Joba has an innings cap. It makes all the sense in the world for Joba to get the extra days off, and for Pettitte to do what he does best... go out and eat 200+ innings/year with average to above average pitching. 2. You can bet your ass that when a front office is considering investing millions of dollars on a player, they are using more than just wins, ERA, or quality starts. They're look at everything available to them, including the peripheral stats which it seems average fans ignore. K/9, BB/9, LD%, FIP, VORP, win shares, etc. To do anything less is like expecting a millionaire to pay a tax accountant to just look at standardized deductions on a tax return. It's just lazy. And wasteful. Even if Pettitte WERE slotted as a #5 pitcher, the idea that he matches up only against "garbage" is absolutely false. Rotation matchups pretty much go out the window as soon as the off days start showing up. That's how you got Hughes vs. Dice K last year in April.
Pettitte's contract is looking to be worth a base of around $6M and can go up to $12M with incentives http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...ng-on-1-year-deal?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49
Yeah, this again dude. (By the way, how old are you anyway?). Do you think he is happy with minor league pay scale? Would you be? They can control him for awhile but not forever and yes I think it will bother him to be relegated back to the minors. Only a fool wouldn't be.
You are missing the point. Of course he wants to be in the majors. Every ballplayer in the minor leagues does. The difference is that you seem to assume that this disappointment will ruin Hughes and/or Kennedy. That they're going to be difficult/sullen because of it. Or that their fragile psyches won't be able to handle it. And that's just absurd. Yes. Pettitte would be the fifth started added to their rotation. Again missing the point. The idea of a #5 starter... the idea of where a pitcher slots into the rotation is what I have an issue with. It won't be Pettitte facing Boston's #5 pitcher all season. And because of the Yankees' innings cap situation with Joba, it makes far more sense for the Yanks to skip him during the off days at the beginning. I'll bet you almost anything that you're not going to see Pettitte having his turn in the rotation skipped in April/May because of an off day.
"Andy Pettitte and the Yankees have agreed to a $5.5 million, one-year contract that brings the left-hander back to New York. A person familiar with the negotiations said the agreement would be announced Monday. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to The Associated Press because the sides agreed not to make public statements before the announcement. Pettitte can make an additional $6.5 million on performance bonuses and bonuses based on time on the active roster. " http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/01/26/pettitte.yankees.ap/index.html 2 lefties and 3 righties. I like the possibilities.
Holy crap! That's a total steal. I guess Andy really did want to pitch for the Yankees. (You can say he changed his mind when he saw little interest elsewhere, but he could have gotten more than $6M somewhere else, I'm sure.) I wonder if Randy and Alan still have a job after the ink from Andy's signature dries. Very poorly played.
Actually, I might agree with that but since they have given no clue as to how they are going to make Chamberlain a full time starter and still keep him on an inning count then all we can do is wait to see.
So, this is the daily news and you can take what they say with a grain of salt. "with innings-pitched and days-on-the-roster incentives that could raise the value of the contract to $12 million." However, if true then they are no incentives at all, just window dressing to make it "look like" the Yankees opening day payroll is under 200 million, which it is as it now stands at 198.5. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...andy_pettitte_to_sign_oneyear_deal_with_.html
If he pitches well, then I'll be satisfied, because he will earn the incentives that he has the opportunity to get, instead of up front giving him more than $10 million like he wanted.
I am very happy Pettite is back. Good move by him and the Yankees. Rotation looks pretty sweet when Pettitte is pencilled in as your #5.
A lot of wannabe experts say the same thing as he does. The reason is that he is perfect in the setup role (literally) and would become the closer when Rivera is done. As a starter he may or may not be injury prone. Everybody will find out this year. He has a history of injuries.
So this seems to indicate you are right although it's the first time I heard anybody call Chamberlain the #5. Again, it is the Daily News so who knows. "Pettitte's signing gives the Yankees a potentially dominating rotation that includes Sabathia, Burnett and Chien-Ming Wang. Joba Chamberlain lines up as the No. 5 starter for now, but Pettitte's presence gives the Yankees the flexibility to move Chamberlain back to his setup role in the bullpen should they decide to go with another young pitcher ? most notably Phil Hughes ? in the No. 5 slot." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...andy_pettitte_signs_oneyear_incentivelad.html
I'll say this right now. We have about as good a chance at seeing Joba in the pen as we do seeing snowfall in August, unless Phil Hughes pitches phenominally well in spring training and our "top 4" (including Andy) pitch at the top of their game. Joba becomes the #5 starter simply because it artificially limits his inning count. For those who still want Joba in the pen, regardless of the number of times it can be explained why he's far more valuable in the rotation, have you looked at the Yankees' pen? Alfredo Aceves Dan Giese Damaso Marte Edwar Ramirez Phil Coke Jose Veras Brian Bruney Mariano Rivera Depending on how things shake out, we could see Hughes or Kennedy in that mix as well. (Personally, from what I've seen so far, I'd like to see Kennedy try out a middle relief role.) That's a pretty damned nice looking bullpen, without Joba. Again, Mariano Rivera pitches in the neighborhood of 70+ innings each season. By comparison, AJ Burnett, for all of his injuries, has pitched less than 120 only 3 times. We're talking about a difference of fifty innings, even for someone who is injury prone. CC Sabathia's lowest inning total was in his rookie year, when he pitched 180.1. Wang has pitched 116.1, 218.0, 199.1, & 95.0. Andy has only pitched less than 200 innings 4 times, and two of those times were 191.2, and 175.0 (in his rookie year). Is it really that hard to see the value you get from having Joba in the rotation? You're going to get that Joba performance at least double the number of innings, and probably close to 3 times the amount.
He is only more valuable in the rotation as long as he doesn't get hurt. Why does anybody care about innings when you are talking about a setup man or closer? He got hurt in college, he got hurt in the minors with the Yankees and he got hurt last year. That's not a great sign.
