Yeah, giving up players and paying Santana what he wanted when there was no market left for him was brilliant. So was outbidding yourself in a closer market where there is no market to raise the price. We Yankees fans understand that we paid more than Sabathia could have made somewhere else. We understand his desire wasn't to play in NY. We realize we were forced to increase the bid because there was competition for his services. The difference is, the Mets give up more to get players where there is little to no competition for their services. But keep believing whatever helps you sleep at night.
wait to sign a guy yes you have to be the highest bidder.i think we got him for what he is worth.$ 12 mil per for 3 years for the best closer not $15 per for 5 years at what he wanted.
the johan deal was a steal. would you go back and make the deal of hughes melky and whatever for johan now?the $30 somewhat saved could have sheets right now. johan wang sheets joba or cc wang joba hughes
No b/c we would have had to gove up too much. CC is as good as Johan now and it "only" cost money instead of players and money and you finished a game out in '06 w/o Johan and a game out in '07 w/ Johan. I still have hopes for Hughes and Kennedy.
junc beat me to the punch but Ill repeat....CC only cost money Johan money and 3 players or 4......that said, the CC money is ludicrous.....but I aint payin it.....maybe an extra 10, 15 bucks for the two games I go to this year
Nope. You don't judge that non-deal after one year. What about CC > Wang > Sheets > Pettitte > Joba Just watch. I bet the Yanks are still going to get two of Burnett, Sheets, Lowe, and Petttite.
you dont think the price of the YES network will not increase? it ruins baseball.because you have it to spend and yes i know the mets spend too 2nd highest whatever its still not your level. I HATE ALL OF YOU YANKEE FANS
It's all been said already, but I'll answer for myself as well. No, even now I wouldn't go back and do the Sabathia deal. Hughes still has the potential to be great. Kennedy? Who knows, but I'm okay with the wait-and-see approach with him. Cano or Melky (who were required as a condition of the trade)? As for Melky, whatever. He had a terrible season. Would I trade him right now if I thought we could get anything? Sure. Cano? Not so fast. He pissed me off last year with his lazy approach and total decline in hitting. However, he's spent time working on his plate approach, and has supposedly made great progress. We're talking about a guy who has competed for the batting title, who has legit power. I'll keep that in-house unless the deal is lopsided in my favor, thank you very much. Then we'd have still had to put up another top-tier prospect. Thanks, but no thanks. ------------- Cappy, Sabathia-Wang-Sheets-Joba-Pettitte would be an awesome rotation. I think Lowe is probably a better option than Pettitte, but the pure fan in me wants to see Andy pitch in the new park. With Hughes and Aceves in the wings, I'd feel really good about next year with that rotation. I'd still love to make a push for Teixeira though. If we "only" get Sheets, Teixeira, and Pettitte on top of Sabathia, I think Cashman will have done an amazing job this offseason, and put us right back in the playoff picture. (Everyone please note the quotes around the word only.)
Here's the thing, though. You can probably have Pettitte for two years $13 million, not the four or five years at $16 million that Lowe wants. They're similar pitchers, otherwise... so you might as well take the shorter contract when you're talking about 35-36 year olds.
By the way, do you realize that the average annual salary of CC's contract is slightly LESS than what you guys paid for Santana (not even counting the prospects)?
i do not want lowe when hes 39 on this team 4 yrs /60 mil for him is a aweful deal. go for sheets at 2-3 years! 30-40 mil and try and push for tex...cause we all know how inconsistent our offense was last year
Interesting to see what Boras does next. He already miscalculated on Varitek and obliterated the market for him. But even more than that, the interest in Teixeira has made it so that there's literally zero market for Manny right now. On the other hand, I have to think that CC's contract just bumped up the price on Lowe. I think I'd like to be in Vegas right now. But I could say that just about any day of the year.
Good points, but I'd still like Lowe. Actually, I'd like Lowe and Pettitte over Burnett and Pettitte. Just give me Sheets and Andy, and call it a day as far as pitching. Then get me Teixeira. I don't think I can make it more obvious how much of a man-crush I have on him. See, when you do it, it's cool. Everyone knows you're just having fun. Certain individuals just come around with their hate for trolling purposes, and that's friggin' annoying. You? No biggie. Now make yourself useful and find me a damn Verizon store where I can see the Samsung Saga. No arguments from me. Though I don't have the same reservations about Lowe. Boras is a moron. How that guy still has any agents in his stable is beyond me. At some point, players are going to get smart and leave him behind. Then again, his clients still manage to be overpaid, so maybe he's doing something right after all. If you're going to be hated, you may as well be rich, right?
7 years, $161M ... slightly more AAV than Johan Santana. Opt out clause after 3 years, $69M (which makes me happy) Please, please, please get Sheets to slot into the 2-or-3 hole with Sabathia and Wang.
Another point regarding the rotation. If you sign Lowe and Burnett, your rotation is this: Sabathia > Wang > Lowe > Burnett > Joba ...with all of those spots taken (barring injury) for the next 4-5 years. If you expect something to come of Hughes, Kennedy, Horne, Brackman, etc... you don't have any flexibility there. Now, I know you can't count on that. But if you go for Sheets and Pettitte, you'd get similar production (possibly even better production) and Hughes and Brackman would be ready for 200 innings and could fit into the rotation... both at age 24.
Yeah, I have zero problem with the opt out clause. What's the worst that could happen? Sabathia hates NY and leaves after the yanks had three years at the best of the prime years.
