2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. AlioTheFool

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    I actually wrote up an entire response regarding just that last night when I read it.

    Then I remembered it was Joe who said it, and skipped hitting "Submit Reply."
     
  2. Don

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    It's also what the Yankees did with Santana at the beginning of last year's winter meetings. The deal was off the table by midnight Tuesday. They are getting played like a fool now anyway. I am sure if SF offered the slob even close to the money he would take it in a minute. He doesn't care about winning or anything else. Just being home where he can get to all the McDonalds blindfolded.
     
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  3. AlioTheFool

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    If they offered him anything close to the money the Yankees are, he'd be stupid to turn it down.

    Comfort, and the same money? Not really a hard decision.

    It's amazing you don't see just how badly you ruin your own points with your own arguments.
     
  4. devilonthetownhallroof

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    No, his points are ruined by the fact that they have no basis in reality.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It is if a player cared about winning but your response tells me you agree with what I said. He doesn't. Actually I always stay true to the points of my arguments. I guess you just never can see them.
     
  6. Don

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    Oh, and the peanut gallery pipes in right on cue. Just like a puppet. What else is new?
     
  7. Don

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    But my point of coming here was to make talk about the Yankees-Dodgers, and Burkett. Both of these I would see as positives for the Yankees. Then getting Teixiera would be make for a pretty near perfect off season. Kemp and pitching for Cano and Cabrerra. Maybe they could then talk Peavy into coming to NY and throw Hughes and Kennedy to San Diego. All of those moves would make for a much better team than anything they can do centered around lard head.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8912072
     
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    Wait. Cabrera for Matt Kemp AND pitching. That's got to be backwards. Rosenthal spending to much time on craps and comp'ed drinks. Either that or there's way more that he just didn't bother writing.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    No, it was Cabrerra and Cano for Kemp and pitching. (of course I have no idea who would play 2nd base for NY. I don't think anybody who is on the team now can.) Personally, I don't dislike either Cabrerra or Cano and I think there must be something none of us knows. The other thing is that they are best friends and maybe they just need to split them up by trading one of them.
     
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    I think thats called playing your cards the right way. Minaya, according to newspaper reports, told Jeff Wilpon - "sit tight, this deal is going to come back to us".
     
  11. JoeJet

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    Hope the Yankees are forced to sign Ollie Perez. Mets were smart and offered him arbitration, which he declined. If Perez signs with the Yankees, or any other team, the Mets will own that teams first round draft pick, and a supplemental between the first and second. THATS HOW YOU BUILD A TEAM.
     
  12. Learn To Swim

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    There's like, exactly 0 teams in the league that wouldn't have done that.

    Pretty sure that the last time the Mets got picks for letting a free-agent go was way back when Hampton left. We got Wright out of that, any maybe Heilman. Woo teambuilding.
     
  13. GQMartin

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    CC wants to be a Dodger.
     
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    I was quoting what Rosenthal wrote. Which makes even less sense, but it's what he wrote.
     
  15. JoeJet

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    The following players, so far, have not been offered arbitration by their teams, and receive no compensating draft picks. SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Bobby Abreu Joe Beimel Pat Burrell Adam Dunn Braden Looper Jamie Moyer Randy Wolf Kerry Wood Andy Pettitte
     
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    After both the Yankees and Red Sox had pulled their offers and made other plans. OF COURSE the deal was coming back to the Mets. It had nowhere else to go. Revising history doesn't make it correct. The moral to the Santana story wasn't the savvy wheeling and dealing of Minaya - although he DID get a good deal. The real story is the incompetence and inexperience of Bill Smith.
     
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    I know you are a lawyer, but I spent about 25 years on Wall Street, and made a few bucks, and understand markets. Its called "letting the market come back to you". Whether its incompetence on somebody else, or being patient, its the guy who picks up the last piece and says "checkmate", that won. Minaya won that deal, you cannot deny that.
     
  18. Barry the Baptist

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    I don't understand why the Dodgers are so intent on moving Kemp. The guy is a star in the making. A potential 5 tool guy. LIving in Dodger Country I'm amazed the fans haven't burned Chavez Revine to the ground yet. They make a great trade for Manny yet if not for that trade they miss the playoffs. That doesn't speak well to the team they have in place.
     
  19. Cappy

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    The full context of Rosenthal's piece had him talking about a Cano trade (for Billingsley, Kershaw, or Kemp). He then mentioned that the Dodgers also liked Cabrera, and adding him would up the price. If the Cano trade happens, Orlando Hudson would be the Yanks' 2B next year (assuming they make a big push to sign him... I'd have to think any Cano deal would hinge on the Yanks knowing Hudson would play for them).

    If they can do that, they should... although I have no idea why Don would then want to trade Hughes and Kennedy plus others (and it would take others) to get Peavy instead of just signing Sabathia. Peavy isn't as dominant a pitcher as Sabathia and already has an injury history with his elbow. For a guy who supposedly judges pitchers solely by their health, that's pretty internally inconsistent. Not to mention that Peavy would want his club option picked up in order to waive his no-trade clause, which means that -- not only are you giving up Hughes and other prospects to get a pitcher with potential elbow issues -- you're doing it for a pitcher the same age as Sabathia who hasn't proven anything outside of the NL West in the league's best pitcher's park.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Peavy... but if you can have him for prospects, or Sabathia for just money, only a moron would go for Peavy. Oh. Oh. Right.
     
  20. GQMartin

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    I'm thinking more and more about it...if the Yanks were willing to throw 4 at Burnett and lose him to the Braves, wouldn't Sheets still be a high priority?
     

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