2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I would think he will be used to spell Tex at first and possibly right field. Didn't they say Matsui can't play the field till the break? That means they expect Damon to play every game in Left? I don't think he will be able to so they may move Nady to Left and Swisher to right for those games and have Damon DH.
     
  2. AlioTheFool

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    I was being serious.

    Anyway, yeah, I thought about ARod's size being a negative factor in his ability to shift over. But is Jeter really going to be sent to left? I guess it's more possible now that Torre is gone, but I just don't see it happening.

    You are absolutely right though. There's not a chance Derek Jeter will ever wear another pro club's cap. I still think he'd serve the Yankees best at second though. And I'd have far more confidence in ARod readjusting to short than Cano anywhere but third.

    I don't mind Jeter in left, I just don't see it.
     
  3. GQMartin

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    Plus Swisher will have to play somewhere. If they intend to trade him, they'd have to raise his stock somehow.
     
  4. GQMartin

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    Yeah it's a weird concept to tackle. I always envisioned him as a second baseman in his twilight years.
     
  5. AlioTheFool

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    But like I said, they've declared Melky the outfield backup. Are they really going to carry 3 backup players? They're already looking at carrying Albaladejo rather than a long-innings guy like Giese.

    I think a big part of the move is to assure they don't lose Melky for nothing (he's out of options) but that doesn't make it any easier if I'm Swisher.
     
  6. GQMartin

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    ^ Yeah I see what you are saying. I guess whichever player, in this case, Melky, the team thinks has more value on the market, will get the playing time and the other one will be released.
     
  7. IATA

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    Melky is gone at the break, if not before. Swisher will probly be gone around then, too.

    They'll need to add some rotation depth at that point, all contenders do...and if Melky and Swish perform even a little bit, the Skanks should be in good position to add it.

    Fuckers.
     
  8. Cappy

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    For now. The entire point of this is to buy more time to see what Gardner can do. Melky is out of options, and Gardner is not. If Gardner sucks horribly for the first six weeks of the season, they'll send him down, and they'll still have Melky.

    I'll bet you almost anything that Swisher sees more ABs than Melky for whatever period has them both on the bench. Swisher will see time in LF and RF. Melky will mostly ride the pine or maybe be a late inning defensive replacement.

    If anything, I think the Yanks trade Nady and keep Swisher. Nady's a FA after this season. Swisher is signed relatively cheaply through 2012, has been a better hitter over his career, and is a better defender, as well.



    And IATA, rotation depth is not really a concern for the Yankees this year. If it does become an issue, that would mean things have gone horribly, horribly, horribly wrong, in which case they are not likely to be contenders.
     
  9. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Here's how I see it playing out, and obviously this is just my point of view.

    Damon's job is on lock, he's the everyday starting LFer for the season.

    Gardner has the job, for now. Personally, I think he'll stick in CF and be the sparkplug that the Yankees need. I'm very high on the kid and think he can be a major contributor. If he lives up to what I think he can accomplish (.275 avg, .350+ OBP) then I think the Yankees will shop Melky, or eventually DFA him (he's out of options. However, if he struggles they'll probably plug Melky back into CF and hope for the best and look at CF trade options.

    RF is the most "up for grabs" in my opinion. Yes, they declared Nady the opening day starter, but the season is 162 games, not a week. If he struggles, they'll swap him and Swisher. If Swisher is excelling while spelling Damon & Teixeira, then they'll find a way to keep his bat in the lineup. So yes, his opening day position is backup LF/RF/1B, but he can easily slide into the starting RF job.

    My guess is also that Matsui will not play an inning in the OF before the ASB and I would be very surprised if he play's there at all this season.

    And don't forget, injuries do happen.
     
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  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    NM, I see you just said that. Well, he can't be just "out". He has a major league contract and they either have to have him on the roster, trade him or cut him, right?
     
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    well Girardi said melky is the FIFTH OF....the nip is out of the picture right now....soooo, damon, gardner, nady are 1,2,3.....melky 5.....could ummm swisher be 4?
     
  12. AlioTheFool

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    Well this all goes back to what I was asking to begin with. Is Swisher staying with the team? In that case, they'll be carrying 6 outfielders (including Matsui) only one of which really hits for legitimate power, and he won't be playing defensively. That's a lot of roster spots to be filling, especially when you're going to have to clear one in May.

    IATA, pen depth isn't a concern this year. As Cappy mentioned, if the Yankees need pen help in the late summer it will be because everything fell apart, and they won't be in the race anyway. The Yankees problem right now is that they have too many guys and can't decide who gets to stay with the pro club.
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    Ahh, I didn't see that in the article I read. Okay, that makes it make more sense now. Though I still don't get carrying 5.5 outfielders.
     
  14. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I dont get carrying nippon boy at all but unfortunately we're stuck with him. As someone else already said, the minute matsui can play in the outfield, Melky is gone...unless Gardner falls flat on his face
     
  15. Don

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    You may not like him but Matsu will probably bat for a higher average and have more RBIs then any other OF on the team...again.
     
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    I'm starting to waver on the firm belief that Chamberlain should start. The dude is a medical disaster just waiting to happen. Even if he's less valuable as a reliever, he'd be more valuable there then plopping down Krispy Kreams at home wearing a sling.
     
  19. Cappy

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    Out of curiosity, what the hell are you basing this on? A medical disaster waiting to happen? Is being a starter more taxing than being a reliever? If he has mechanical issues, they're not going to go away just because he moves to the pen.

    ETA: Besides, since when has George King become an authority on anything. Guys, please. Stop reading the Post. It's garbage.
     
  20. EcKo151

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    I to this day say Joba should be the 8th inning man.

    Mo may have a year left, hopefully more, at a high level...Is it so bad to have "your" Papelbon, young stud closer waiting in the wings when Mo retires? Unless you're going to tell me Melcanon or JB Cox is going to burst on the scene like Joba did and be just as good...Then I just can't fathom the fact that right now he's being used as our 5th starter.

    Who the hell needs a 5th starter? I'd rather roll the dice with Hughes and have one less worry for that 8th inning spot when I feel much more confident and comfortable with Joba-Mo than Marte-Mo or whoever is going to set him up.
     

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