2008-2009 Mets Offseason thread

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  1. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    So according to ESPN the Mets along with the Yankees and Nationals (why they get lumped in with the Mets and Yanks I have no idea) have said they have no intrest in Manny. So if the Mets have no intrest would Adam Dunn be a viable option? He still has a few years before he hits the hill and you know your going to get 40 home runs of course 200 ks as well but I thought he cut down on them lst year.
     
  2. 17a_tailgater

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    if we sign dunn, he can play lf and next year take over 1st base when delgado leaves. then again we can sign another corner outfielder, ie matt holiday?????
     
  3. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    That was my thought..... sign Dunn and next year when Delgado is done move him to 1st base. Then sign Holiday. That'd be an unreal lineup..... Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Dunn and Holiday. That's the stuff fantasy teams are made of.
     
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    Sign Dunn. I have seen him kill the Mets in the past.
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Former Mets manager Joe Torre recently wrote a book with Tom Verducci. Are any of you guys going to purchase the book?
     
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    He reminds me too much of Dave Kingman..
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Their strikeout rates are similar, and they were/are both bad fielders, but otherwise Dunn is much better than Kingman ever was: .381 versus .302 OBP, .518 versus .478 SLG, 130 versus 115 OPS+ (that is, OPS adjusted for ballparks and the rest of the league, thus taking into account the smaller parks and "chemical adjustments" nowadays). Dunn suffers from the unappreciation for walks - he's finished in the top 5 in the league 5 times in 8 seasons, while Kingman never finished in the top 5 in his entire 16 year career. Kingman was a slightly better slugger for his time, but Dunn's walks make him a far more valuable hitter.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    No Dunn or Abreu, so I guess it's really going to be Murphy and Tatis in leftfield and Church in rightfield. Gulp.
     
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    It surprises me how much Met fans overlook something like that and bring up that comparison, people badly need to get off the batting average bandwagon, with a .381 OBP even with all those strikeouts that is a solid #2 hitter or even lower middle of the order, .302 OBP is #8 hitter caliber
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Don't blame Met fans, this is universal, and it all goes back to the decision by Harry Chadwick in the late 1800s to not count walks in batting average. This has led to people thinking that walks are only a bad thing (i.e., the pitcher's fault), rather than recognizing that they are actually a more stable aspect of hitting ability than base hits are, and hence reflect a real ability in hitters.
     
  13. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    My youth league coach stressed walks like they were hits. Even if guys who were power hitters swung at bad pitches and struck out he would have them run laps. He was a big proponent of walks led to runs and there is a reason we won alot of games and championships. I wish more guys had the plate discipline to get on base in key situations, I can't even begin to imagine how many times I've seen a team down by a run or two in the 9th and the first guy up strikes out swining at a bad pitch.
     
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    That's the best it's looked in 20 years ^^.
     
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    Haha shea was a total shithole. I will give the fans this though, for a Yankees-Mets came at shea on a friday night two years ago Met fans were out in full force as I was the only Yankee fan in my section. Of course looking back on it though, it's funny how Met fans after a really nice game by Ollie Perez were laughing at Yankee fans for being 14 games out of first, when really they had no idea about the collapse coming in september.
     
  18. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    You know what else is pretty funny? That more than 1/3 of your 2000 World Series team are known cheats. Throw in the fact that the crown jewel of the Yankees (A Fraud) is also a known cheater. Now that's comical......
     
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    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    dont sweat it, he trolls on mets fans all the time.
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Oh I know he's a troll, but every now and then we need to give the Yankee fans a little dose of reality.
     

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