Well, all I can say its, I've sat in the present stadium for many years and I've always liked being closer to the rail than not. Even ticket resales on StubHub indicate that lower row seats sell more quickly and at a higher price than rows further back. So I stick to my opinion that if Woody really wants to move the rest of the PSLs, rows further away from the rail ought to be priced lower than ones that are close. Someone paying $4,000 for a PSL way out in the far corner of an EZ is a much harder sell than selling the front row of that section for the same $4,000.
The Jets are going to eventually have to slash PSL prices or do as I thought they would and offer all sections PSL-free last minute on a year-to-year basis. Prices are way more than Jets fans are willing to pay (chart), partially because of the way this was handled with so many disgruntled former season ticket holders. $120 for lower end zone seats seems like a good deal compared to the $700 clubs, but $120 is still 20-25 more than anyone was willing to pay at giants stadium. Throw in two worthless preseason games at full price and you can understand why people are telling Johnson to fuck off. Woody's point of view is that you get all these amenities in the new place, but he's completely tone deaf to the fact that Jets fans don't give a shit about amenities. They just want a seat to watch the game with access to plenty of beer and a bathroom to take a leak in at half time.
I agree with you about seating in the lower level...I'd much rather be in row 20, than row 1. I prefer to be able to see the field and the plays develop from a higher angle. But guys like "rowonejetsfan" will push the market the other way, and prefer to be down low in row 1. I think 227 is onto something, and I've been in agreement with him from the start. Tiered Pricing should be their next step...although I'm not sure how you satisfy those who have already paid for PSL's? Do you tell them "sorry, but those who waited will get cheaper seats?"
80,000 seats in the stadium 25,000 seats in the upper bowl -sold out leaves roughly 55,000 seats. that means only half of the psl have been sold?????? oh boy
i dont even like paying $95 a ticket. i think that is riDICKulous.especially being corner end zone. 1 and done is my expectations. tailgating is good but my flat screen and toilet is nicer
You keep their money but let them apply the surplus towards future tickets. Or do like the Yankees and give people an extra seat for every two in your account, that way you kill two birds with one stone by filling more seats and keeping your best customers (sorta) happy
On stubhub, certain things like sunny side of field, aisle seat, low row brings up resale value. Row one 109 and 117 in lower goal line jets side on aisle for 10K each at 10 yard line is a bargain. Same sections, last row by goal line a few seats in suck. Yet same price. Jets may have to do value pricing, stop selling PSLs for a month, give everyone with a PSL opportunity to relocate to best available PSLs then selling remaining PSLs with some type of deal, free season tickets and parking and leave price the same. When the last car on lot is the purple one with no AC and a stickshift the car dealer discounts. When I say row one is great I mean for resale. If you are going to 100% of games row 20 sidelines is better sitelines but if you are selling a few games row one goes for more in secondary.
I'll be surprised if prices don't go down at some point. If the Yankees couldn't keep their prices up, neither can the Jets. Either way, at those prices, I don't see myself going to any games next year.
So the Giants are soldout now correct? Except for a few seats here and there- I wonder if that will have any impact on Woody, probably never felt more second class before. Giants have a horrible end to a season and we go to the AFC champ game and we're still so far from being soldout.
I guess this is all we have once again. 25k seats is nuts and will never sell out. What is the NFL gonna do about the blackout? People in Detroit will be pissed if the lift it for us because we are the # 1 market. The NFL is gonna have to step in and help the jets figure out a way to sell out the place. I have no idea what they are gonna do. I don't think these seats will sell out with any PSL's in them.. That market has dried up. Its time to bag the whole thing a just charge $$ for each seat like the Pats did.
I do see myself going, but most likely picking and choosing the game I want on stubhub or a last minute $15 "military discount" tickets without throwing away my money on a PSL or preseason games. Next time a rep calls me I'll be waiting with: "Hey if the AFC Championship game costs 50% more, why don't the preseason games cost 50% less?"
BTW Giants are not sold out. I am around 950 on waiting list and a few weeks ago they offered me either 4k or 5k PSls that is done by zone. I thought about it but they would not tell me where. But they were about to do seat assignments. I was also told after seat assignments people could back out. With the Giants having a bad season I bet some people backed out. If I got a high row in the "b" in the mez in the middle or a last row EZ in the middle I would back out too. When I asked what is the worst seat I could get stuck in they told me that there were 2k in EZ and 2K in Mezz unsold. So it would not be in the worst 2k in either section. I said how come you are advertising you are sold out if I can buy seats, he said "we are sold out", those seats remaining are only for people like you who have below a certain number on waiting list, huh!!!! btw I think after seat assignment even a few UD might be available, although they most like would be row 26 UD EZ seats. Giants also have a few of most expensive left too. But Giants did completely sell out lower sideline something Jets are not clost to doing. Funny stuff, on line But will you love me tomorrow? So you're stuck with, oh, four Jets or Giants PSLs at, say, $80,000 -- and that's before ticket costs -- and in 2011 there's an NFL lockout? Enjoy! . . . By the way, the Jets' PSL sales have been "very close," "almost," "nearly" and "on the verge" of selling out for very close to, almost, nearly and on the verge of a year. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more...aud_cesa_q1zFFduTN5fYPmFcsA8QcP#ixzz0ddlA4Odb
I hate that tix are 95 now. Mine were 75. If this team goes on a run for the next 5-6 years, I will be happy as shit to be in the stadium on Sundays.
People wont want anymore tickets because later down the line they will have to pay for them..And they certainly arent going to be where your seats are now..Applying money towards tickets would be the right thing to do.Because for sure the JETS do not want to start refunding money.
To me, one huge difference between the Jets and Giants PSls are the financing. Jets up to 15 years and Giants Zero. If you buy a Jets PSL and finance, you have the flexibility of "walking away". Just like a house that is worth less than your mortgage. If the Jets are really bad over the next few years, you may see a flood of "delinquents". Would it be worth for the Jets to sue them? We'll have to see how the Redskins and their unhappy PSL owners play out.
Except that in the real estate world, the seller usually has walked away with the full sale price and the bank is left holding the bag. In this case the financing sources probably aren't 100% on the hook but it's not a total loss on the Jets part when someone walks away. From what I remember it's not the Jets that finance the PSLs
Yeah, that's exactly what you tell them. I'm not Woody's sales manager, but that is what I would advise him to do. In every PSL section you're basically sold out in the lower rows, from front to back. I agree that in the Lowers (and Lowers only), you are always better off in Row 15 and up, but even that is not a deterrant to people like ROJF. In the Lowers, getting a front row seat is like walking into a movie theatre and asking for the front row. Horrible! But in the world of the NFL, there are always those who want closer rows, even in the Lowers. If you were privy to being able to glance at Woody's secret seating chart, I guarantee you will see that ALL rows 1-12 are gone in ALL sections. This is why it should be priced like concentric rings... like a cross-section of the growth rings on a tree. So if Woody truly wants move those rows from 16 on back, he needs to offer those upper row seats in each section at like 60% of the PSL and maybe 75% of the ticket price of what the first 15-row people in those sections are paying. And as far as being able to pull it off, he would be able to do so easily. If someone bitches, you tell them, "Sorry, but those who waited will get cheaper seats because it's what we're currently marketing. If you would like those cheaper PSLs and ticket prices, we can move you from Row 3 to Row 23." Watch how many takers you get for that. Zero! Instead of pricing everything in the stadium according to the shape of a slice of pizza, they should have priced it in concentric circles. Woody's own little circle jerk if you will.
But you know what, at this point it might be a lost cause. The unseated people who would be most likely to buy seats are disgruntled former season ticket holders. It's going to take more than price to get most of those back in. Woody Johnson would need to do some serious ass kissing but even then I think a lot of those people want to see financial pain inflicted on him for at least part of the first season
Well, you are right as hell about that. I have not encountered a single ticketholder in the new stadium that is entirely happy with the situation (unless he paid dearly and is okay with that). And it gets worse from there... much worse... to the season ticketholder who walked away in '09 and threw in the towel when he found out his 10 years in the Mezz Section at $120 a seat didn't count for shit adn he probably wouldn't even get into the nosebleeds upstairs. Those are the really pissed off former STHers that Woody would have to personally fellate in Times Square in Macy's window on New Year's Eve to even have them consider buying into a PSL.
