Jones run for 3 yards ... illegal procedure on Woddy ... Jones run for 4 yard loss ... Jones run for 5 on 3rd & 16 ... FG That penalty KILLED us ... and can we throw the damn ball on 3rd down????
Manning would've been lights out wither way, but losing Greene and the ability to sustain drives and win TOP killed us, if Greene stayed we may very well of won, but now no one knows. If anyone doesn't think we couldn't of scored another 14 points with Greene in IMO is nuts, we were rolling, but shit happens, with longer drive and winning TOP who knows, maybe Manning would'nt of had the chance to score all those points, maybe the defense would have been ore rested and held one of those TD's to a FG, but its over and done with, next year boys!!!
Maybe, I watched a different game than you did...Your team had two big plays to score. One was a trick play and the other was a great play action by Sanchize. Your running game was held in check all game. Greene didn't do anything and neither did TJ. Your running game wasn't going to do anything this game even if Greene remained. Your O-line was getting called for false starts and holding every 3rd play at that point. Your D stayed on the field so long they got tired and couldn't keep up. Sanchize played will with the threat of being in the lead and our D had to play honest, but once your team fell behind, our corners started jumping the short routes and this caused issues with his throws. Look at the first half vs. the second half of the game. The choice of the fg was a good decision because Rex knew points were hard to come by and he had to take the chance... if the 52 yard fg was good we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Just accept your team played well, but this isn't the 04/05 Manning your team played.
Greenes last 2 runs before being hurt were for 7 and 8 yards. He was starting to break out just like he did in the Chargers game. This is how the Jets offense works. Wear em down and burst the dam. Once Green was out Jones has no burst left with the bum knee, we were done running the ball and the Colts knew it. Game over. Not to mention Strickland and Scott pretty much went down in the middle of the game.
Well, Manning's obviously a great QB. But, no, he's not "THAT" good. This isn't Tiger Woods storming back from a 5 stroke deficit on the back 9 on Sunday. I'll never figure out why so many people have a hard time recognizing how critical an entire team is to success in football. It's easy to focus on the Colts going from 6 points to 30 points and say "Manning's just a magician." What about focusing on the Jets going from 17 to.....17? I do think the loss of Greene was a factor here. But the Colts D had done a fine job bottling up the Jets' ground game before he left, too. And Jones, not Greene, was the guy with the 1400 yard season. What I'm getting at here is that the Colts offense's production could easily have been for naught had their defense not done its job as well as it did.
My point was, I don't think any lead or more points would've stopped Manning from carving up the D and winning the game for the Colts in the Second Half.
We didnt lose the game as much as Manning won it. hes the Michael jordan of the NFL. Once he figure out what the jets were doing, there was nothing they could do to stop him. we needed allot of breaks to pull this one down and we didnt get them. I think the jets had a great effort. Peyton Manning. is really what it was. I dont think we lose to any other team yesterday
This may be the homer in me, but I agree with your statement. I was saying the entire first half, damn, the Jets are playing some defense. The play action worked to jump out to an 11 point lead. Against any other team, I feel they would have panicked and threw the ball at Revis or into coverage, kind of like Rivers and Palmer, but Manning was patient and understood there was still a half of football left to play.
Why did Sheppard's demotion happen in the first place? Usually you can tell when a corner is playing really badly.
Sure, but it wasn't just Manning. Look at where his passes went -- a rookie and a "2nd year rookie". Both our Pro Bowl targets were well-defended for virtually the whole game. So who gets the credit for the games that Collie and Garcon had? Them or Manning? Or how about the offensive line? I'd say all of the above. The best receiver in the world is useless without a quarterback who can get them the ball. And the best quarterback in the world is useless without a receiver running routes correctly and catching well-placed balls...not to mention the time needed to allow the play to form.
Our running game is built to excel in the 2nd half. There's a very good chance we could have dominated on the ground in the 2nd half if Greene hadn't gotten hurt and left us with one tailback for the rest of the game. He was averaging more than 4 yards per carry when he went down and we had kept his carries down. Still, I love the last line. You're right. That was NOT the playoff Manning of old. He was as good as I've seen him, and I sure as hell can't say our lead was safe against him even with Greene. The better team won.
Blowing a lead isnt a big deal if its against the colts. they come back from everthing it seems like! They are just a great team.
and your point is what again? Football is a team sport, but individual awards are given out. The MVP is an individual accolade, the all pro team and pro bowl are individual accolades...Manning is the reason our offense clicks and that's it.
No, it's not "it". If it were, then Dan Marino would have some bling on his fingers -- because he's the best player to ever play that position, IMO. But his fingers are bare....while far lesser quarterbacks like Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, and Doug Williams all have rings. You were right when you said that "football is a team sport" -- which is a point that is not mutually exclusive of individual excellence and accolades. It simply means that winning games comes down to more than what one or two guys can do. Look at Barry Sanders, for crying out loud. You won't see many better RBs than that guy was. He was a freak of nature. He also happened to play on a lot of really bad teams, despite his own excellence.
The turning point was definitely the end of the first half when the Colts marched down the field in 0:58. Did anyone see Jim Leonhard talking down Eric Smith for blowing his coverage on the touchdown pass to Collie? I thought we could have turned it around, but after Kerry Rhodes adjusted to drop coverage in the end zone and broke toward the sideline, it was just too easy for Peyton to make that read and dump it over the middle to Clark.
The Jets running game looked the same as it did in the first halves of the last 2 playoff games. Losing Greene was everything. Excuse us for not being amazed that your D contained a 31 year old running back with a swollen knee.
