They got Garnett and its easier to do in basketball because you field 5 players who play both ways. One guy makes a bigger difference than 1 out of 22. Baseball and Football are the two sports where its very hard to pull of the win now without building the team for the big run at the SB or WS The knicks can do the win now if the get LeBron and his version of Pippen.
I agree w/ you. It's unbelieveable how desperate some fans are to have a franchise QB to hold onto. They've convinced themselves that a former UDFA who had 2 good preseason games last season, and a former 2nd round pick who in 3 years has looked average at best are worth not taking a chance on an elite QB prospect. I still think it goes back to jet fans being afraid of failure. QB prospects get put under the microscope more than any position so people suck up all the questions that come about on the given individual not realizing that these same questions are true of ANY prospect at ANY position. You tie this into jet fans fear of draft day failure due to names like Vick and Haight...and you have people holding onto guys like Brett Ratliff and Kellen Clemmens for dear life! The criticisms people have on this board for Sanchez and Freeman are the same crap I heard about Cutler,Ryan and Roethlisberger. No qb prospect is perfect...even John Elway was considered a turd off the field when he came out. Sooner or later we have to take a chance on an elite QB prospect or we'll continue to be a perennial 6th seed wild contender
Trading up to #8 on draft day to get any other player than Sanchez would be the worst move in the history of the draft and anyone on this board saying they would give away the ranch to move to 8 to take someone other than Sanchez such as Crabtree or Maclin or Raji is a complete fool and should not be aloud to post on this website. IF and a big IF they trade up, make no mistake about it..it will be for the franchise qb Sanchez if he is still on the board (meaning he gets by Seattle). Those that think it will be for someone else get your head examined.
Trading for the 8th pick 3 days before the draft would only rival the Ditka/Ricky Williams trade as dumbest trades of all time history...
Really? Mike Mamula, Ditka/Williams, Vikings missing picks 2 years in a row, Tony Mandarich, Akili Smith,Herschel Walker to Dallas.... ....Aren't as bad as trading a first rounder, second rounder and a 5th rounder for an elite level prospect in a relatively weak draft? I'm not exactly big on the trade up but there have been far worse decisions on draft day.
I'd prefer a trade back to a trade forward, but at the same time, those options are MUCH better than where we have at 17. 17 seems to be the pick of the litter of the 2nd tier. At 8, we would get an impact player. Depending on the price, I'd welcome a trade up. I would move 17, our 2nd round pick, and our 4th round pick for the #8 pick and a 5th rounder. But I think the Jets should seriously consider Boldin.
COMPLETELY AGREE.. if they are saying its will cost the Jets that much more, their full of shit.. they just want the deal done as soon as possible... but you can't bullshit a bullshitter, tanny knows wht he's doing.. if seattle doesn't draft sanchez, with the 8th pick of the draft the NY Jets select Mark Sanchez..
Your a fool sir. Crabtree is a fucking stud. We trade up for him I take that. He's the best athlete in this draft and if he was healthy you could make a case he'd go two easily. EASILY.
I'd accept trading up for Maclin or Crabtree. I'm not sold on Sanchez.... The ideal scenario, in my opinion, would be having RB Moreno fall to us at 17 and grabbing a WR in round 2. See what we got right now at QB on the roster, get some young weapons on the roster and move from there.
Thats funny you picked 3 of the most successful QB's picked in the last 5 years... I bet you were a Matt Leinart lover..
TSN ran a story showing that first round QBs bust more than 50% of the time. Trading up to pick a QB that played one college season a supremely talented team, and whose coach thought he should stay another year and said did not compare favorably to Palmer or Leinart, would be a terrible move. How does anybody know whether Sanchez is any better than Clemens or Ratliff???? It's time to give one of these guys the keys behind a real OL with a real running game and, for once, a defense. I'm tired of the QB flavor of the year. The Jets are treating their QB search like a woman in a clothing store trying on outfit after outfit in the dressing room without ever buying one and taking it home. One more thing. There has also been a study that showed that the most important criteria for determining pro success for a college QB is the # of starts as a college QB. There are exceptions of course (Brady). Sanchez has not played enough college ball to be anything more than a flyer of a pick for an NFL team. I say pass and draft at 17 (and don't take Freeman either).
This should be common knowledge by now... But there are tons of people that think that QB wins games. It's unreal how little people pay attention to the game.
It still doesn't hurt to have an intelligent qb who can pick up our system, and who is a natural leader. It's true though, the surrounding players and system make the quarterback. I'd rather stay put and get a WR or DL.
1. Pete Carroll apologized for those remarks...he was just pissed because his team isn't a lock to win a National Championship now that Mark Sanchez is gone. 2. Why was Mark Sanchez on that "supremely talented" team? ...because he was the best rated quarterback in his recruiting class. He belonged on that team just as much as anyone else. USC's receivers benefited from having Mark Sanchez as their quarterback. Look at it this way - USC is so good, it's almost like Mark Sanchez has a few years experience in a pro-style offense.
Mark Sanchez is then the definition of a system QB. A guy that relies on the talent around him to succeed.
