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CC, I come here in peace and not to pick a fight. :). [MEDIA] Seconds 0:22-0:24 of the video shows the "movement" in question as ASJ bounces...
Correct, Butler did not give the touch back signal but did the incomplete pass signal waving off the TD. It is not the correct signal as it was...
Com'n Kurt, really? I have not wavered since my first post (#109) where in the third paragraph of that post I mentioned all that we have to worry...
The NFL head of officials has spoken on the matter and has given his opinion on the matter. You can find the video here:...
I am not a moron, but thanks for warm welcome wishes. I only threw my two cents into the ring to show folks were the issue was and not to get...
That is the rule. If you wish to cite me points to the rule book where I am wrong then I am all ears. In the end of day NCJetsfan, this entire...
As i mentioned in the other thread, if there movement of the ball by the player then he is in control of the movement. If there is movement of...
My only guess was that the ref slipped and two came together, so the ref let it go. The ref might of thought had I not slipped Butler would not...
To the bolded. I too noticed this note 3 today and it would great if the NFL came out and clarified this note. Although it mentions a slight...
The bold part is the entire battlefield here, everything else is important to show elements and time line, but it all boils down to did or did not...
This rule deals with possession and what he needs to maintain possession otherwise one could use this rule to say a WR does not need two feet to...
The ref that called the TD did not see the ball come loose as Jenkins body block his view and he was looking at the goal line at the time.
SolidGB, I will point back to my points. He may have control of the ball but not possession. I do not disagree with your shots and notes, but...
okay will do, need to make some coffee :-). My recollection of their comments went more to the bobble on the roll over than anything before this...
I hope this comes through, here is the Gronk catch I was talking about, less movement from what i remember, but was the catch i mentioned. it is...
There was a touchdown by Gronk, I think it was against Chicago, where he landed out of bounds in the end zone with the ball in front of him and...
SolidGB, in this example the RB had possession as he broke the plane, so TD. Jenkins did not have possession when he crossed the goal line. He...
SolidGB, regarding point (1) I have the following response. Jenkins did not have possession of the ball when he crossed the goal line, that is...
Sorry Browning, the rules say otherwise. This play comes down to whether there was ball movement when he rolled over, most say no, if the ref...
I hear yah 100%. And I do not think there was PI on Gronk even though there was contact without the defender looking behind him. Alas,...
