legler82 versus Jets GM’s

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  1. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I liked Darnold even less than Wilson and I made him my avatar once he was drafted. I will be closely monitoring Fields though.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    does Fields' performance in the Big 10 championship game concern you?
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I never get this question. I’m never swayed by just 1 or 2 games, good or bad. It’s the entire body of work I look at and more importantly NFL translatable traits. Every prospect is capable of a great game or 2 as well as a couple stinkers. If Northwestern cracked the Fields puzzle, don’t you think Clemson would have borrowed the code? I could go into a lot more details about that specific game but short answer is no, I’m not concerned.
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Hey man i get it. When I was banging the table for Josh Allen you were pretty much the only guy on the same page that saw the IT factor I did. Guys like NC and Broadway sam and Gace and Confused called us every name in the book and tried to back it up with irrelevant stats and accuracy issues he apparently had. But if they actually watched the tape they would of seen what we saw
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I get that but he sure looked bad in that game. Really bad. Northwestern plays an NFL style D. Veneables at Clemson doesn't, and that Clemson team struggled on D all year
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Fields is going to be good no doubt and if SF picks him like I’m sure they will he will probably outperform Wilson and Lawrence next year because his getting Kyle Shanahan, 2 nice WR, Mostart and I solid OL. SF is way further ahead of the Jets and Jags when it comes to pieces of the puzzle. Also that D should be healthy again so he will have that to lean on as well.

    The positives I get from Fields are legit he’s a gamer, ideal size, tough, super athletic, accurate deep ball, strong arm, can throw off the run left or right, difficult to tackle, doesn’t get rattled on a bad play and he’s respected by his team mates.

    The negatives I get from Fields is a long release, holds the ball to low when trying to use progressions, first read covered he runs, gets confused in zone coverage schemes, accuracy issues on short/intermediate throws inside the pocket and can make bad decisions when pressured off a zone blitz.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He threw 3 picks against Indiana as well. He doesn't seem to handle pressure well. The AFC East had a few teams that can play some defense (Buffalo, Miami). Does his lack of pocket presence and inability to handle the blitz concern you at all?
     
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    He had a thumb injury and NW flooded the field w/ DBs & LBs daring OSU to beat them on the ground. OSU could have elected to beat their heads against the wall and force the pass for the sake of Fields’ draft stock or ram the ball down their throats & take the dub. They chose the latter. I thought Indiana was his worst performance. They sped him up with pressure and confused him with presnap disguises combined with well timed post snap coverage rotations. The free safety for Indiana had one of the best games I’ve ever seen by a college safety. Fields fell into the hero ball trap and some uncharacteristic bonehead decisions which led to TOs. I would be concerned if that was the norm and a pattern but that’s not the case IMO. At the end of day he’s had about a handful of plays like that in the span of 2 years.
     
  9. AJW

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    He's picking Wilson. Deal with it and go have a hard drink.

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    I thought you weren't going to throw your money down the toilet anymore? You can drink as hard as you want and watch from your home and still enjoy your team.

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    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Your Yankees are down 0-4. Go deal with your baseball team. :p
     
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    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    I am renewing my tickets AJW.

    This season will be exciting.
     
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    They suck because their GM is running the team and have a puppet for a manager. They are going nowhere. See, I am a realist as much as a fan.

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    This will be you....[​IMG]

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    cause I nailed allen and jackson when everyone here including legler shit on jackson and everyone minus legler shit on allen?
     
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    GC

    I trust you as well my friend. I trust you, NC, baalwrship and Rockinz as well. That's why I don't see nightmares with Wilson option.

    I am a happy camper.

    Looks like both can work out with the Jets if we don't screw things up Jets style.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    honestly IDK how anyone can not be happy. were picking 2 in a deep QB class. there are 3 legit QBs who could have gone 1st overall in other drafts and 2 other solid prospects. we are in a good position overall as a franchise to land a QB and build a team. JD has done a great job overall. we should all be happy and trust him. not to mention saleh who reminds me of a mixture of rex ryan and herm edwards with his likeability and the players liking him but he's not brash like ryan and knows much more Xs and Os then herm.
     
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    Maybe because we've seen what paid professionals can do so many times before. Just because you are paid does not mean you are competent.
     
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    I'm holding out hope that it will be different this year for the following reasons

    1. The new offense is QB friendly and will likely start out real simple

    2. JD is actually talking with the coaches to understand the type of players wanted for their schemes. Such a novel concept.

    3. I believe JD will address the OLine and RB in the draft to reduce the load on the new QB.

    4. Our WRs are already way better, at least on paper, than recent Jets history.
     
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    I am hoping too, and I think there is reason for hope
     
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