Jets start interviewing GM candidates

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  1. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Is that a bad thing though that they were able to identify good QBs for years? They didn't exactly have top picks to get these QBs either. Love was picked late round 1 when Rodgers could still play. Heck, maybe if Woody were not dumb enough to keep JD last year, and we ended up with a GB guy for a GM, we could have picked Bo Nix in this draft and actually got an offensive coach who could develop him, like the way GB did with Love and MLF. So, I don't think this GB assistant would be a terrible choice, but I would go with the Philly guy.

    Philly once again made conf finals without a great QB but via strength of their overall roster, well rounded scouting and analytics department, and good coaching. That seems to be the theme since Roseman took over control of the roster in 2016. In that time span went to 2 SBs with two different coaches and without a great QB. And now conf finals at the very least. Halaby has been there all this time, and maybe could replicate something like this here.
     
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    Korn Ferry is a general purpose headhunter organization with little or no presence or insight into the league; Casserly and another NFL relic were out of touch with what went on in the league at the time but at least in those instances Johnson reached out to try to do better than he had alone. I don't consider casual recommendations by Parcells, Manning or anyone else as Johnson ceding his hiring power. In the end all his hirings were his - at least he appears to understand he is not equipped to be making these calls in a vacuum.

    33Team has its fingers on the heartbeat of the league and knows who are the movers and shakers and up and comers - that's why they are in place today. "If at first you don't succeed..." is an improvement over saying "we tried to pay for help which didn't work out so we'll go back to doing it ourselves even though that doesn't work."

    Whoever or whatever Johnson uses to feed him information on appropriate candidates has to be looked at as an improvement over him doing it himself. The Johnson family is not going away - why are people here complaining that they are still trying to get it right. Is there a stone unturned with the secret of successful hiring in the NFL they should know about?
     
  3. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Improvement?

    You are aware the Jets are coming off looking as if they have no idea what they're doing taking this long to hire a new GM & head coach?

    Woody fired the HC after week 5 the GM a few weeks later. The Jets had a good headstart on every other team yet may be the last team to make hires.

    Was Coach Ulbrich formally fired? Or Hackett? I read he took a job in Atlanta I don't remember hearing or reading he had been fired.

    It's just weird.

     
  4. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    These "sources" think it may be JES. Now, as there are no leaks from the Jets, essentially all they know is he interviewed well. Highly probable coming from JES camp that he interviewed for Jets and Titans. It might be true. I thought Borgonzi has VERY similar profile but more success, so it makes sense that the Titans picked him.

    Even when you look at QB, you have to give credit to GB FO for getting Love. But KC traded up for Mahomes!!! That trumps that move. GB did well getting coach MLF. But KC got Andy Reid when he got fired. So, yeah, if it is JES, why couldn't we get Borgonzi as we had a head start on the Titans? Hoping it is Halaby, then at least things make a bit more sense, even though JES is a solid hire in my book too.
     
  5. LAJet

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    Ulbrich was not fired. I believe he knew he had no chance, and he probably had all he could take from the pitiful environment he was placed under. New HC and GM beware….this is not GB, KC, Detroit or Tampa Bay.
     
  6. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I don't see it that way. I think he was told he had no chance as a HC, yes, that was one in a million shot anyway. But I don't think we can conclude he would mind being a DC here. It's just that why would he wait to find out whether the new coach would keep him as a DC when he already has a guaranteed DC offer? That would be just stupid. He could have been out of the job. Take the guaranteed position using your connections to Morris over the same non guaranteed position. Just common sense, doesn't mean anything else.

    And btw, I am not sure sure he is a good DC. He may or may not be. There was a notable drop off when Saleh left. We saw the signs of deterioration defensively even before Saleh left, so it is possible his departure did not hurt as much, but we don't know that. When Saleh left, we were #5 overall in points allowed this season. Now, that certainly was not sustainable, but without him we were bottom 3 in NFL. Also, don't forget #32 ranking the 1st year when we had no talent. At least we know Saleh can coach up to talent level. But was our talent really bottom 3 on defense this season? I'd argue maybe not that low.

    Certainly when you have a defensive HC and when he leaves defense looks much worse, it's a fair concern whether your DC is actually good or was carried by the HC.
     
    #226 Borat, Jan 20, 2025 at 12:35 PM
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