Other then the most common sense factor at play ever and while factoring in the worst kept secrets in football at the time that the Jets desperately wanted him and Green Bay wanted him gone? Not everything needs hard proof to be that obvious. I mean there was a reason literally everybody knew and was speculating that trade as a forgone conclusion the moment a desperate Woody threw his hat in the mix that was only going to include him bidding against himself on a declining 40yo QB. But if that isn't enough, the fact Hackett doubled down on being historically terrible for a second year in a row and is *still* going to hold on to his job here should be proof enough for anybody but the staunchest Rodgers apologists imo. I'm hard pressed to even think of another coach that was more deserving of being fired (not counting because off field stuff) then Hackett is right now. This is above even Gase imo.
I'm not making any apologies for Rodgers, but I'm not going to make any assumptions that put the blame for Hackett entirely on him either. I can easily see an alternative where Woody got himself in a lather once he heard that Rodgers might be available and then convinced himself that the best way to "get the inside track" on getting Rodgers was to hire Hackett who just happened to be available. But again, that's just speculation. Again, I've never heard of a pro athlete say: "Well if this or that coach isn't here, then I'm gone (or I'm not going there)". Top athletes - pro or amateur - are focused on winning. They don't care who the coaches are except to the extent that those coaches help them (or not). That's "common sense".
We don't have to talk in the hypothetical here. Since we actually have an example of Rodgers caring to an extent that is keeping Hackett in his role at OC
Again, where is the proof that it's Rodgers' demand vs. the stupidity (or whatever else) of Woody, Douglas, and Saleh? I'd say the odds are that it's the latter's decision, not Rodgers', that is keeping Hackett employed. But if there's proof that it is Rodgers, then that's even more damning of this FO and CS than anything else, and all the more reason that as long as they remain, we're fucked.
While I basically agree with your post, remember that in 2022 he played injured. He had knee and rib injuries that hampered his play.
They all think their friends help them win, but they are often wrong. Like Rodgers is with Hackett Jr.
Wonder if we could trade Rodgers to the Vikings for a 2nd. Complete the Favre arc. We aren’t winning a SB next year. Should be thinking about drafting a QB and cleaning house with the FO and CS right now so we can preserve a future. Keeping Hackett and letting the tail (Rodgers) wag the dog makes no sense. Time to pull the plug, it didn’t work out. Find that GM, HC and QB this offseason.
I agree that Hackett absolutely should not return, but all signs point to him returning so I'm trying to determine what the best course of action is with that in mind.
It's not just Hackett. It's Hackett, Boyle, Lazard, and Cobb. All from the Packers and all trash. Saleh even "fired" his close personal friend in MLF so Hackett could be brought in. If there's smoke... But I agree that it's on the FO and CS for allowing this to happen.
Not sure what you mean? I don’t think anyone has anything, as all of this seems unsubstantiated until someone provides a source.
Like I said yesterday somebody show me another similar example of an NFL Coach, with that historically bad of a 2 year track record of completely exposed incompetence and with their 2 biggest building block playmaker stars openly calling them out for it in the media, who keeps their job. There essentially is no other rational explanation. Even for the worst run franchise in professional sports. Nobody is realistically THAT oblivious. Buying into a narrative that Woody and co are just too stupid to look up into the sky and see the blue is just a dumb way imo to try and re-frame this away from Rodgers.
Why would you expect anyone to want to put their name on the stories being told? That would be like declaring their retirement. You saw how Rodgers and a few others were more interested in who the source was than solving the problems that were revealed. Even here we have posters who are more concerned with outing the people reporting the crap than that the crap is happening. Keep in mind that the stories follow the same theme and no one has seen fit to deny that they are true. No other reporters close to the team have seen fit to deny the scenarios depicted. Rosenblatt and Russini claim to have spoken to thirty or more sources - if they're fake where are the sources to deny it? Do you really believe Wilson did not initially decline to rejoin the lineup? What parts of the report do you find hard to believe?
This is the problem with unsubstantiated reports. It’s left up to what you or I want to believe out of it. I’m sure atleast some of it is true. But without the responsibility of source, it can freely be embellished to the reporters desire to sell their product . The jets could be caught with their pants down, or they could simply not be feeding into it. Rosenblatt and russini “claim” to have spoken to 30 sources. A claim is exactly what it is. Are they the only ones in the great NY sports media that are jumping all over this? As far as Rodger etc… I would be after the source whether it was true or not. These are the same ones trying to say Rodgers/wilsons relationship soured down the stretch, when Rodgers said they talked daily. They were seen on the sidelines talking. I’m not just gonna buy all of it, without it being verified.
I knew it was bad I didn't know it was that bad. Feels like yesterday Buffalo had the 18 years long playoff drought now here are the Jets approaching that. It could and should end in 2024 IF they make the right decisions and Rodgers isn't completely done but man if they miss and clean house wow it's scary to even begin to think about.
Media is not all the same; some are far from reliable, others have high standards. The Athletic is owned by the NY Times which has always had a reputation for accuracy, and has taken action to remove reporters who do not follow their standards. Just because they don't publish names of sources for the public does not mean that they do not identify those sources to their editors prior to publication. You ask if Rosenblatt and Russini are the only ones jumping on the story? Well, they certainly were not the only ones who reported the earlier version when Wilson wimped out of playing and their story was widely cited by multiple other media outlets without, to my knowledge, any of their rivals denying it. Why do you think that was? How would you have such thing "verified" to your satisfaction? Believe what you want - but I note that you did not answer the question of if you believe Wilson didn't want to get back in the lineup which, of course, was at the root of the entire revelation.
