It’s not politics, it’s history

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but the Democrats tried to be the responsible adults with the super delegates to stop the communist takeover of their party and ended up fucking themselves even worse.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    But doesn't justify it.
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    There is nothing fundamentally wrong with super-delegates. The problem was that an outsider crashed the party in 2016 and predictably was shut down by the super delegates because hey who wants an outsider crashing the party? Note that Hillary Clinton won the majority of the pledged delegates before the convention and the controversy revolved around the absurd notion that the super delegates might instead choose the party crasher.

    The election that spawned the super delegates was 1980 - which was a fiercely contested primary between an embattled incumbent and several polarizing rivals trying to unseat him. The Democrats of that Age, 40-odd years ago, decided that the party should have a voice in a contested convention after a vicious primary season.

    In part due to the controversy in 2016, which I think was overblown, the super delegates are no longer allowed to vote on the first ballot. This means they only come into play when the electorate has not spoken clearly on who the candidate should be.
     
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  4. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    1 party down... 1 to go.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Democrats have been weak since 2010. Everybody points to the ACA as the reason but the real reason is that Howard Dean's carefully crafted attempt to move the Dems a step to the right fell apart as he was demoted by Obama's transition team. This was one of the bigger mistakes the Democrats have made in the last generation.
     
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    Dems have been addicted to big donor money for a while. I know the economy was great by many metrics during Clinton's presidency, but his signing of NAFTA was a big reason why Trump emerged in the first place. And Obama had many Wall Street alum in his cabinet which mean the change he ran on wasn't going to happen.
     
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    Steve Bannon found guilty of contempt for defying congressional subpoena for the January 6th investigation. He will be sentenced in October and will spend a little time in jail
     
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  8. Acad23

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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If Bannon gets caught up in the Oathkeepers trials and winds up convicted of something there he will be a three-time loser.
     
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  10. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    lol... there's been a steady procession of Presidents that have sold out America... one even committed murder of U.S. citizens.

    So yeah... Trump deserves whatever he's gonna get and then some... but let's be real.

    There are very fine people on both sides... :confused:
     
  11. Acad23

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    He shoulda consulted with Eric Holder.... ;)
     
  12. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't watch the hearings last night...

    Did this guy get to testify again and pimp his new book?

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  13. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    - Yes it does - always

    - no argument (trump was/is/always will be the ultra-douche from a personal standpoint which reflected in many of his "step on your dick" egregious, unforgivable missteps); didn't bat .000 policy-wise fwiw imho

    - ask yourself this (while you and a gazillion other self-described 'more intellectual' / 'better educated' / 'morally superior' types condescendingly trashed--for the last 15 years--each and every single individual who may've had the consummate gall to hold.....drum roll.....a different opinion):

    why'd this 'GOP nominated clown' end up winning the 2016 prez election?

    Why? Simple: the constant snide media condescension "o/b/o" blew up in their face.

    You and Hillary "she will get us closest to the shore" Rodham party-partisan sycophants summarily and dismissively wrote off "those people" as either:

    A: trump groupies
    B: 'squirrel-hunting-Goobers

    'you sister-fucking incels' ain't invited'
     
  14. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    What in the actual fuck?
     
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    The Jet green point is the most important. The economy was in much better shape before the drooling old man took over which is what a lot of Americans care about.
     
  16. Acad23

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    ...and they still haven't learned from '16... that's why we'll end up with DeSantis in '24.

    When Biden, Kamala & Pelosi are the face of your party... yer average citizen can smell the hypocrisy & corruption.

    Slick Gavin Newsome has nothing to sell other than the miserable state of California.
     
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    Loss for words?
     
  18. HomeoftheJets

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    It was in much better shape before the pandemic. Biden fucked up with inflation for sure, but the economy was bad when he took office.
     
  19. HomeoftheJets

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    DeSantis is like a 4-0 football team that hasn't played anyone good yet, and even Harris looked good before the spotlight went on her. Let's see how DeSantis looks when people start gunning for him in the primaries.
     
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    Okay gotta say it ..Trump is just a self serving disgusting human being

    What Pres ever called for a Mob to klll his own VP or just kill representatives in Congress?

    Then screams like a lunatic he wants to be driven to Capital and lead an armed mob to disrupt a democratic legislative body?? ...imagine if that happened ?? >>>Historic Coup de TA

    He belongs in Jail with all his underlings who he uses and spits out...newsflash >>he doesn't "love" or care about any of the dummies who illegally stormed Capital and got arrested

    And people love this guy??? SMH

    I have seen a lot of Presidents come and go but these times and this guy is just incredible and scary tbh
     
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