Draft Game 21

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    My highest score so far.

    Missed the top 20 by a nose.

    YOUR TEAM: NEW YORK JETS
    GAME OVER!


    Your score is: 49081 (GRADE: A)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson (A)
    Round 1 Pick 31: Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Kwity Paye, DE/OLB, Michigan (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Derion Kendrick, CB, Clemson (A)
    Round 4 Pick 10 (MINN): Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 14 (DEN): Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 16 (MIA): Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Tanner Morgan, QB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 2: Damone Clark, ILB/OLB, LSU (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 4 (HOU): Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 6 (ATL): DaShaun White, ILB/OLB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 10 (MINN): Ben Brown, OG, Mississippi (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 8 (LAC): Brock Purdy, QB, Iowa State (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 32 (MIA): Jack Anderson, OG, Texas Tech (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 31: Ronnie Perkins, DE/OLB, Oklahoma (A+)


    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick
     
  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 26. New York Jets
      Kyle Pitts
      TE, Florida
    • 33. New York Jets
      Pat Freiermuth
      TE, Penn State
    • 65. New York Jets
      Jackson Carman
      OT, Clemson
    • 89. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 102. New York Jets
      Joe Tryon
      EDGE, Washington
    • 141. New York Jets
      Nico Collins
      WR, Michigan
    • 144. New York Jets
      Roger McCreary
      CB, Auburn
    • 190. New York Jets
      Tamorrion Terry
      WR, Florida State
    @HerndonFan
     
  3. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    You went a little overboard on TE's IMO, one of them could be replaced by an interior OL or WR. I'd address WR before pick 141, which I believe is round 4. I like the Gainwell pick, he's my top RB after Etienne. Just my 2 cents.
     
  4. NCJetsfan

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    I understand that, and it wasn't my first choice, and I don't think the draft would ever fall that way, but you can't draft what's not there or without having to reach significantly or take a DL, S or LB. Since I'm not a paying member, there are no trades. If I was the Jets' GM in real life, I would have tried to trade down a couple of times. I was focusing on improving the offense and building around Lawrence. I didn't care if I didn't get an Edge or CB.

    Unfortunately, this is not a good draft for IOL or OL in general imo, so in the early rounds, they are few and far between. At that point in the draft, there were no OL rated within 15-20 places. I think WR Terrace Marshall from LSU was rated about 10 spots lower. Freiermuth is a better player and a higher ceiling than the nearest Edge that was available. It wouldn't be ideal perhaps, but the right OC could fashion a great offense around Crowder, Mims, Pitts, Freiermuth, Gainwell, and another WR that would give opposing DCs nightmares. Look at what having two great receiving TEs did for Brady and NE. They would improve blocking for the offense as well.

    I wanted to draft a WR earlier, but again, there just weren't any available in that draft at those spots who were better. There was a slot WR or two, but that wouldn't help.

    I like Gainwell a lot, but would rather have been able to take Najee Harris. I like him second after Etienne and then Gainwell.

    Take a look at where TDN has the IOL, Edge and WRs rated. For the most part, they don't line up with where the Jets are picking. If the Jets' and NFL's ratings are anywhere near the same, Douglas is either going to have to trade down, reach, or take BPA and ignore needs at several of our picks.
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    This draft fell differently, and imo wasn't realistic because Fields fell to the Vikings at pick #12 and Najee Harris fell to the Steelers at pick #64. This draft wouldn't have nearly the offensive firepower, but would solidify the IOL and would give Lawrence a couple of weapons.

    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 26. New York Jets
      Pat Freiermuth
      TE, Penn State
    • 33. New York Jets
      Creed Humphrey
      IOL, Oklahoma
    • 65. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 89. New York Jets
      Tylan Wallace
      WR, Oklahoma State
    • 102. New York Jets
      Ben Cleveland
      IOL, Georgia
    • 141. New York Jets
      Reggie Roberson Jr.
      WR, SMU
    • 144. New York Jets
      T.J. Carter
      CB, Memphis
    • 190. New York Jets
      Chris Rumph II
      EDGE, Duke
     
  6. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I've been saying for a while that CB and Edge could wait until 2022 if it means the offense gets addressed in a big way next year. I wouldn't be against taking one in the 2021 draft if the CS and Douglas like a prospect.

    I'll take a look at TDN ratings, but I could've sworn there would be IOL and WR's worth taking with the Seattle pick. Maybe I reached when drafting as I didn't go by BPA.

    I understand your reasoning for taking Pitts and Freiermuth, but it looks like a less than optimal use of draft capital to me. I'd take Marshall or Rashod Bateman with the 2nd rounder to give Lawrence Crowder, Mims, Pitts, and Marshall/Bateman to throw to. There's also an outside chance that Herndon does better with a new CS to give the team two good receiving TE's without the need to draft more than one.

    I'm higher on Gainwell than Harris, but that's just my opinion. Harris does have some appealing skills.
     
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  7. NCJetsfan

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    Wyatt Davis is #24. Alijah Vera-Tucker (OG) is ranked #31 by TDN. Creed Humphrey is #32. Trey Smith is #39. Josh Myers of OSU is #49. I've never had a chance to draft Davis or Vera-Tucker. I was able to take Humphrey in the subsequent draft. I like Trey Smith a lot, but Freiermuth is rated #21 and is a better prospect and has less injury concerns than Smith, and I wasn't going to reach for Smith or Myers. Pitts is #11 and imo is a better weapon/prospect than Smith or Bateman, and I didn't have a chance to draft one of them anyway.

    In terms of WRs JaMarr Chase is #5, Jaylon Waddle is #10, DeVonta Smith is #14, Rashod Bateman is #16, Terrace Marshall is #33, and Chris Olave is #47.

    I didn't care if there were good CB or Edge prospects that high, because I think those high picks should be used on offense to build around Lawrence. Ossai is #19, Jaycee Horn is #20, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah is #22, Eric Stokes is #26, Shaun Wade is #29, Derion Kendrick is #35, and Azeez Ojulari is #36.

    I've only seen one video of Gainwell. I've seen Harris play quite a few times. I may change my mind once I see more of Gainwell. I think he may be more explosive, faster, but I think Harris has more power. Neither Perine nor Ty Johnson are power backs, and I think Harris would be a better fit from that perspective than Gainwell. Harris is rated #40 and Gainwell is #87, and that's another factor or reason why I prefer Harris at this point, but I think I'd be happy with either one.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    In this draft, I intentionally passed on Freiermuth and decided to focus on the OL and see what happened. I had to reach for Vera-Tucker as there were higher-ranked players (OTs and defensive players) there. I reached for Trey Smith as again, there were high-ranked players available. At #65 I took Moehrig because he was rated 20-30 spots ahead of any offensive player I would have wanted. I had to reach for Gainwell. By the time pick #102 came along, again it was just reaching for the best offensive player at a position of need. Ross is rated as the #141 player, so that was value and need. Collins was rated below #144, so he was a little bit of a reach. Again, if how TDN has the players ranked is anywhere near where the Jets and/or NFL teams have the players rated, I think we're going to have a hard time getting the offensive players we want.

    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 26. New York Jets
      Alijah Vera-Tucker
      IOL, USC
    • 33. New York Jets
      Trey Smith
      IOL, Tennessee
    • 65. New York Jets
      Trevon Moehrig
      S, TCU
    • 89. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 102. New York Jets
      Hunter Long
      TE, Boston College
    • 141. New York Jets
      Justyn Ross
      WR, Clemson
    • 144. New York Jets
      Nico Collins
      WR, Michigan
    • 190. New York Jets
      Chris Rumph II
      EDGE, Duke
     
  9. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Finally broke the top 20 for Jets and top 25 overall with my new high score!

    YOUR TEAM: NEW YORK JETS
    GAME OVER!


    Your score is: 51425 (GRADE: A)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 7 (MIA): Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami (A)
    Round 1 Pick 21 (MIA): Zach Wilson, QB, BYU (A)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson (A)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Quincy Roche, DE/OLB, Miami (A)
    Round 3 Pick 3 (DAL): Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 5 (WASH): Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 14 (DEN): Tommy Kraemer, OG/OT, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 22 (JAX): Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Jimmy Morrissey, C, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 4: Damone Clark, ILB/OLB, LSU (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 5 (WASH): Damonte Coxie, WR, Memphis (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 11 (DET): Brock Purdy, QB, Iowa State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22 (CLE): Sam Ehlinger, QB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9 (CAR): Nyles Pinckney, DT, Clemson (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15 (S.F.): Delarrin TurnerYell, FS/SS, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 23 (L.V.): JaTarvious Whitlow, RB, Auburn (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 8 (CINN): Keith Taylor, CB, Washington (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11 (CINN): Jonathon Cooper, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A+)


    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick (MIA)

    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick

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    Jets Top 20 Scores
    Player Score Date
    1. A.D. Whitfield 57713 11/11/2020
    2. section_218 55389 11/11/2020
    3. SGA 55264 11/2/2020
    4. yakyak3737 54429 11/9/2020
    5. Wyatt Derp 54160 11/6/2020
    6. psu09 54131 10/20/2020
    7. bcrhodes23 53569 11/6/2020
    8. SavetheSkins 52096 11/14/2020
    9. Rowdylab 51899 10/18/2020
    10. Rob P 51737 11/14/2020
    11. KardiacKids81 51706 11/14/2020
    12. NYYGehrig 51651 11/12/2020
    13. Mhe17 51439 11/6/2020
    14. Nostra Thomas 51433 11/14/2020
    15. James Hasty 51425 11/14/2020
    16. Randy Oldfield 51317 10/24/2020
    17. ryan 51313 10/31/2020
    18. Joel 51292 11/13/2020
    19. poe20 51144 11/11/2020
    20. Watson247 51121 11/13/2020

    NFL Draft Top 200 Scores
    Player Team Score Date
    1. A.D. Whitfield Jaguars 58139 9/9/2020
    2. section_218 Jets 55389 11/11/2020
    3. SGA Jaguars 55313 11/11/2020
    4. yakyak3737 Jets 54429 11/9/2020
    5. Jagtard Jaguars 54414 11/14/2020
    6. bcrhodes23 Jaguars 54331 11/6/2020
    7. Ahed Jaguars 54319 9/19/2020
    8. Wyatt Derp Jets 54160 11/6/2020
    9. psu09 Jets 54131 10/20/2020
    10. Rowdylab Giants 52889 10/15/2020
    11. SavetheSkins Jets 52096 11/14/2020
    12. Nostra Thomas Cowboys 52007 11/7/2020
    13. tonyfeds Jaguars 51978 9/20/2020
    14. Watson247 Browns 51837 11/10/2020
    15. Rob P Jets 51737 11/14/2020
    16. KardiacKids81 Jets 51706 11/14/2020
    17. ryan Jaguars 51666 11/11/2020
    18. NYYGehrig Jets 51651 11/12/2020
    19. Lionslifer Falcons 51646 10/10/2020
    20. poe20 Giants 51624 11/3/2020
    21. Gandalf_007 Giants 51529 10/17/2020
    22. Mhe17 Jets 51439 11/6/2020
    23. James Hasty Jets 51425 11/14/2020
    24. Randy Oldfield Jets 51317 10/24/2020
    25. Joel Jets 51292 11/13/2020

    Offense Picks

    Round 1 Pick 21 (MIA): Zach Wilson, QB, BYU (A)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson (A)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 5 (WASH): Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 14 (DEN): Tommy Kraemer, OG/OT, Notre Dame (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 22 (JAX): Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Jimmy Morrissey, C, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 5 (WASH): Damonte Coxie, WR, Memphis (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 11 (DET): Brock Purdy, QB, Iowa State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 22 (CLE): Sam Ehlinger, QB, Texas (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 23 (L.V.): JaTarvious Whitlow, RB, Auburn (A+)

    Defense Picks

    Round 1 Pick 7 (MIA): Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami (A)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Quincy Roche, DE/OLB, Miami (A)
    Round 3 Pick 3 (DAL): Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 4: Damone Clark, ILB/OLB, LSU (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 9 (CAR): Nyles Pinckney, DT, Clemson (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 15 (S.F.): Delarrin TurnerYell, FS/SS, Oklahoma (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 8 (CINN): Keith Taylor, CB, Washington (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 11 (CINN): Jonathon Cooper, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A+)


     
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  10. NCJetsfan

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    Congratulations, but in essence your draft and score is why I dislike that site. It's ridiculous. Nobody in real life is going to trade down that many times, it would be a nightmare trying to sign all of them and then re-sign them 4 years later, and it really isn't even a very good draft in spite of all the picks..Those 3 QBs together aren't a scab on Trevor Lawrence's ass, and in spite of adding Etienne, there's not much help there for the offense and for whichever one of those QB win the starting job. Rousseau, Roche and Adebo are nice for the defense, but won't help the rookie QB.
     
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    LOL sorry, I didn't mean to be a downer, but it's the facts about that site. It's like playing Madden. I just don't see the point of making a zillion trades and winding up with 20-30 draft picks. I also don't like that they constantly get the Jets' needs wrong, and they have players with wrong values.
     
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    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    When your team loses nine straight games to start the season the draft game makes for a fun diversion.

    While the outcomes lack a high possibility of success it helps one learn more about the players available next year.

    It certainly helps me every Spring when I put together mock drafts / off-seasons / etc.
     
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    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 20. New York Jets
      Kyle Pitts
      TE, Florida
    • 33. New York Jets
      Creed Humphrey
      IOL, Oklahoma
    • 65. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 83. New York Jets
      Sage Surratt
      WR, Wake Forest
    • 102. New York Jets
      Shaka Toney
      EDGE, Penn State
    • 141. New York Jets
      Chase Lucas
      CB, Arizona State
    • 148. New York Jets
      Justyn Ross
      WR, Clemson
    • 189. New York Jets
      Amari Rodgers
      WR, Clemson
    It's still very early, final draft rankings are a long way away, and all, but this draft was crazy in that I could have taken Etienne instead of Pitts, and surrounded Lawrence with his RB and two of his WRs. Even so, I'd take this draft in a NY minute. A great playmaker at TE, a new C, a starting RB who is a HR threat, a potential help with the pass rush, a KR CB who could help on D, and plenty of targets for Lawrence.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    In this draft, both Pitts and Freiermuth were gone at #20 but Jaylon Waddle, Rashod Bateman and DeVonta Smith were all there. If Waddle recovers from his ACL, he has the highest ceiling, so I went with him. Ossai fell to #33 and was too good to pass up.

    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 20. New York Jets
      Jaylen Waddle
      WR, Alabama
    • 33. New York Jets
      Joseph Ossai
      EDGE, Texas
    • 65. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 83. New York Jets
      Deonte Brown
      IOL, Alabama
    • 102. New York Jets
      Caden Sterns
      S, Texas
    • 141. New York Jets
      Justyn Ross
      WR, Clemson
    • 148. New York Jets
      Kenny Yeboah
      TE, Ole Miss
    • 189.New York Jets
      T.J. Vasher
      WR, Texas Tech
     
  16. NCJetsfan

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    I'd take this draft in a NY minute. Things couldn't get much more comfortable for Lawrence that with his college RB, two of his college WRs, and Freiermuth to go with Mims and Crowder. With Faalele (who is 6'6", 400 pounds and possibly our future RT), Deonte Brown 6'4", 338 pounds), and Sadarius Hutcherson (6'4", 320 pounds) along with Becton and Cameron Clark), we could switch to a power scheme. Hopefully, McGovern would improve with dramatically better OG play on either side of him. If not, we replace him in 2022. Toney has a lot of potential as an edge, although he probably won't be ranked so low. Rodgers could be our future slot WR after Crowder's contract expires.

    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 21. New York Jets
      Travis Etienne
      RB, Clemson
    • 33. New York Jets
      Pat Freiermuth
      TE, Penn State
    • 65. New York Jets
      Daniel Faalele
      OT, Minnesota
    • 84. New York Jets
      Deonte Brown
      IOL, Alabama
    • 102. New York Jets
      Shaka Toney
      EDGE, Penn State
    • 141. New York Jets
      Justyn Ross
      WR, Clemson
    • 148. New York Jets
      Sadarius Hutcherson
      IOL, South Carolina
    • 192. New York Jets
      Amari Rodgers
      WR, Clemson
     
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    • 1. New York Jets
      Trevor Lawrence
      QB, Clemson
    • 21. New York Jets
      Jaylen Waddle
      WR, Alabama
    • 33. New York Jets
      Trey Smith
      IOL, Tennessee
    • 65. New York Jets
      Daniel Faalele
      OT, Minnesota
    • 84. New York Jets
      Kenneth Gainwell
      RB, Memphis
    • 102. New York Jets
      Tre' McKitty
      TE, Georgia
    • 141. New York Jets
      James Wiggins
      S, Cincinnati
    • 148. New York Jets
      Deommodore Lenoir
      CB, Oregon
    • 192. New York Jets
      Tyler Linderbaum
      IOL, Iowa
     
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    For some reason you're the only one who plays this GAME and doesn't post your scores lol and that is weak sauce NC!
     
  19. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    As always, the drafts I am most pleased with get lower scores-- but I think this is an example of REBUILD, STEP 1:

    Your score is: 43843 (GRADE: A+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 7 (CINN): Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 23 (MINN): Alec Lindstrom, C/OG, Boston College (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Jimmy Morrissey, C, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 16 (MINN): TJ Carter, CB, Memphis (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 1: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 8: TJ Vasher, WR, Texas Tech (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 21: Charles Williams, RB, UNLV (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick

    I think Sewell and Jackson as RT/RG, Morrissey at C (I think he's underrated because there are several good C prospects in this draft), and Lindstrom at LG next to Becton is an OL our young QB can count on for the next 15 years.
    Vasher at 6'6", 215, runs a 4.5-40 and he can catch. He's pretty much the ideal guy to put across from Mims.
    Williams is an old-school workhorse of a back who has been easily the best player on his team for the last 4 years.
    Carter has been very impressive, doing everything well for Memphis. Doing everything well for AAC teams doesn't always mean much in the NFL, but he has pretty good size and speed, so he's a good bet to improve on the Jets CB situation.
     
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    Your score is: 43934 (GRADE: A)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 7 (CINN): Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB, Miami (A)
    Round 1 Pick 8 (NYG): Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State (A)
    Round 2 Pick 7 (CINN): Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 6 (HOU): Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Cade Mays, OG/OT, Tennessee (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Thayer Munford, OT, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 10 (ATL): Israel Mukuamu, CB, South Carolina (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 11 (DEN): Jimmy Morrissey, C, Pittsburgh (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 10 (ATL): Tyreke Johnson, CB, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 21: Jordyn Peters, CB, Auburn (A+)

    Your Future Picks:
    2022 Round 1 Pick
    2023 Round 1 Pick


    Another take on the same theme-- Less emphasis on interior O-line, more emphasis on giving the young QB plenty of weapons. Starting the draft with the best pass-rushing prospect may not appear to help the QB prospect on paper, but forcing the opposing offense into shorter drives means giving Fields more time on the field with the ball in his hands-- meaning both less time sitting on the bench, and fewer snaps spent in garbage time with the game out of reach and the opposing D in Prevent.
     

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