No Name Defense the glimmer from 2019

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  1. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    So.....we have a championship caliber D? :p:D
     
  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I think you misread that.
    jets 3.0/rush vs league average is > 2000 ravens 2.7 yds/rush vs league average.
     
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    that yards per rush average may change on Thursday night after we face the league's best rushing offense by a wide margin :(
     
  4. Noam

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    I agree that we might see Cashman or someone else take over for Williamson next year but given Cashman s injury we might get another year of Williamson. There are lot worse ways to spend 6.5 million. But that is certainly a viable option.

    In regards to the ayc one would think our inability to stop the pass would make our run defense more susceptible to big plays. That being saud I agree that a great run defense does not have a lot of value but the job they have done is remarkable.
     
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  5. FJF

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    We are going to get killed on the edges.
     
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  6. BrowningNagle

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    hopefully Jamal Adams is healthy. I am not a defensive strategy person but I personally would put Adams in the box all game and tell him to spy Lamar Jackson, period.
     
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  7. LAJet

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    With the lack of talent and injuries to our D I think the performance has been remarkable. We have no major pass rusher and a mediocre, rookie populated secondary but still able to make plays. We need to build those two areas in earnest without weakening the run D. I disagree that a great run defense has no value. It has plenty of value, and a big piece towards improving the pass rush and becoming a top D. Had we gotten a pass rusher instead of Leo, and a better option than TJ at corner for the shit load of money he got paid, Williams would be making mince meat out of many a good old passing Offenses right now. I don’t think we are far off and we could have been there two years ago with a good GM in synch with a good coach.
     
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  8. TonyFtLaud

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    No, just pointing out the #s because as you know, the translation here will become the D was the best run D in history.
    And for the record, the Ravens 2.7 vs league avg was still better than the current 3 vs league avg.
     
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  9. Mogriffjr

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    #Jets James Burgess finished with a 90.8 overall grade in Week 14 which was the 3rd highest among linebackers who played a minimum of 40 defensive snaps. #TakeFlight

    - so here's a guy who was familiar with Gregg Williams system and he's just getting better the more he plays. I feel like Hewitt is a solid guy and Burgess maybe a keeper at a cheap price. Between Mosely, Cashman...you start to see some semblance of the LB corps for next year
     
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    I think we're likely to get killed in an number of ways. We don't even belong on the same field as the Ravens.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    Yes. We don't need Avery Williamson, and can save $6.5 million if we trade or release him. If one is available in FA, I'd like to see us sign one who excels in coverage.
     
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  12. GasedAndConfused

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    i'd keep mosley and hewitt to start and burgess and cashman for depth and sub packages and save the 6.5mil from williamson. greg is making diamonds out of shit right now
     
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  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It's worth a shot. The usual problem with a spy is that some jag middle linebacker is usually tasked with it in college and professional football and they're always slow run stoppers.

    Adams has a decent shot to make a couple tackles on Jackson to at least prevent 30 yard gains and keep them to 10.
     
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    Is Adams on track to play Thursday? Haven't seen anything about his status.
     
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    It's still up in the air right now. Gase said if they had practice he wouldn't have been out there.
     
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    Thanks,been looking for an update...
     
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    Assuming he's the same player as he was in Baltimore. No idea if that'll be the case.
     
  18. James Hasty

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    They may be a bid costly but I would do my best to keep Williamson, Jenkins, and Robby Anderson next year.

    If we add Mosley and Williamson to what we have now with upgrades at CB and OLB look out.
     
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  19. GasedAndConfused

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    williamson is expendable with the way hewitt, burgess, and cashman have played. and we really need the 6.5 mil in space to address other needs like keeping robby/jenkins and others and fixing the o-line and adding help at CB and edge
     
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  20. Jonathan_Vilma

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    He's still a damn good player though. Williamson is a do everything linebacker.

    You're right though. It just makes sense to get rid of him since Burgess and Hewitt haven't missed a beat. We still lack a coverage linebacker but most teams do. It's not like Williamson can cover anyways.
     

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