How would YOU handle the Jets Quarterback Situation in 2018?

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's not the hits, it's the point of rattling a promising player into submission. I call it "david carr" syndrome. I always felt he could have been a QB, but he started day 1 as the 1st overall pick to an expansion team with no o-line, no WRs no nothing basically and no defense and got to the point where he was too rattled to play the position even after leaving the texans.
     
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    Noam Well-Known Member

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    didn't Rivers sit out his 1st two seasons?
     
  3. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Sports Science timed Darnold's release and found it isn't slow. So I don't the think the INTs are a result of his mechanics, I think they're because he tries to a be a gunslinger.

     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    The zone blocking scheme allows you to spend less draft and/or FA capital on offensive linemen. You can get buy smaller weaker offensive linemen as long as they are agile.
     
  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    pretty much. he seen some garbage time in his rookie year (5 total passes) and in his 2nd year 12 total passes due to garbage time and brees getting knocked out of the final game with a rotator cuff injury.
     
  6. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Not to mention what happened to Joey Harrington..
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Man i forgot about that poor bastard until you brought it up. guess we could say the same for couch, but i never brought into the couch hype personally.
     
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  8. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Most of his interceptions were mostly due to miscommunication with inexperienced WRs and/or him taking chances trying to force the ball.
     
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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Both of those kids got beaten to pulps behind marginal OLines. I think Harrington took 125 sacks over 8 years. Not sure what Couch's sack count was (166 sacks over 5 years). That's a beating no professional QB should take. You just can't ignore the OL or your Qb pays the price and that's a fate I really don't want Darnold to experience.
     
  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_sacked_single_season.htm

    david carr is 1st and 3rd all time for most times sacked in a single season. the 1st all time record was his rookie year. he was sacked 76 times in one season. Brady has played 17 seasons and sacked 452 times or about 26.5 times per year on average.
     
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    To answer the OP's original question, I wanted to sign Cousins because I thought there was no way we'd get Darnold. Even after trading up to 3, I didn't think Darnold was a possibility. But had you told me before free agency that we could sign Cousins or draft Darnold, I'd have chosen to draft Darnold.
     
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  12. ColoradoContrails

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    He had a pretty good QB in front of him though. Same as with Rodgers.

    I don't think Macc considers Darnold a "two year project". I sure hope he isn't. That said, if he has to sit some games at the beginning, so be it. But to decide up front that he has sit a year - or two! - is the wrong approach. "David Carr" syndrome happened because Carr was on a horrible team. While the Jets aren't very good, they're not horrible. And the rules protecting QBs are much stricter now as well. The point is, let Darnold compete for the starting job. If he wins it, then let him play; if he doesn't, then you see where he's at and know what kind of timeline we're looking at.
     
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    What does that mean? Does that mean you'd want him to start next year regardless, even if it hurts his long-term development and may cause him to never be as good or effective as if he sat for 2 years? Besides, it's not like he'd be sitting on his ass doing nothing. He'd be working hard to fix his fundamentals, learn the WCO, develop chemistry with his offensive teammates, studying film of opposing Ds, learning, mastering the fine art of playing QB, etc.

    It may not take 2 years, and I hope it doesn't, but if that's what he needs to be ultimately successful, then he should get it imo.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I know that, but do you really expect them to leap up to around 15th best OL? I sure don't, particularly when Carpenter isn't a good fit in a zone scheme.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Do you ever bother to fact check your stupid posts?

    Carpenter was in a zone scheme pretty much THE ENTIRE TIME he was in Seattle.

    You are grossly ignorant.
     
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    To be fair Carpenter wasn't very good in Seattle.
     
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    hope we trade teddy bridgewatter for a 3rd round pick and darnold is ready to start week 1
     
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    Quick self-correction here...

    We have a 3rd national game late in the season on a Saturday against Houston. Point still stands.
     
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    What about Goff? You talked about Wentz in that draft. Goff was the opposite. So terrible that everyone called him an INSTANT bust. Then he played great in 2017 and all of that was forgotten. Wentz played really good in 2017. He truly was the MVP until injury. What happens on the field is all that matters.

    So Darnold just needs to progress his rookie season. If he looks like Hackenberg or complete garbage, maybe people will form negative opinions, but I don't see that happening.
     
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