Kirk Cousins Mega Thread. Post all your thoughts under this thread.

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Your best option at QB if Mac cannot get Kirk Cousins?

Poll closed Mar 13, 2018.
  1. Sign Case Keenum

    6 vote(s)
    3.2%
  2. Sign Teddy Bridgewater

    22 vote(s)
    11.7%
  3. Sign Sam Bradford

    5 vote(s)
    2.7%
  4. Sign Drew Brees

    4 vote(s)
    2.1%
  5. Trade for Alex Smith

    4 vote(s)
    2.1%
  6. Trade for Nick Foles

    7 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. Trade for Browns No. 1 Overall Pick: Draft Sam Darnold

    18 vote(s)
    9.6%
  8. Trade for Browns No. 1 Overall Pick: Draft Josh Rosen

    27 vote(s)
    14.4%
  9. Stay at 6 and draft a QB: Post Your Choice

    72 vote(s)
    38.3%
  10. Trade up for Colts 3rd or Browns 4th Overall Pick and draft a QB: Post Your Choice

    23 vote(s)
    12.2%
  1. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Teams share information all the time.
     
  2. Big Cat

    Big Cat Well-Known Member

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    Honeymoon period. Remember that Maccagnan made a bunch of tantalizing trades in his first couple weeks with the Jets too and everyone fell in love with him.
     
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  3. AJT73

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    I don't think we get him. Would be very happy signing McCown and Bridgewater. Though I think Bridgewater goes to Arizona with a half guarentee to start. No one to compete against there. With McCown he'd have competition. I have no problem resigning McCown but I'd want another qb besides our draft pick to compete against him. If not Bridgewater McCarron but I think same thing as Bridgewater why come to the Jets if they have McCown. I want to start and I think McCarron goes to Buffalo.
     
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    But on the face of it, a team's diluting the value of its pick. For example, you're the Browns and you've already picked your QB at #1. Why wouldn't it be be better to play possum with the #4 pick and let two QB-needy teams sweat it out among themselves?
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  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    The latter part of what you described is not devaluing the pick, quite the contrary.
     
  6. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Not knowing who reached out to the Browns keeps the QB-needy teams playing chicken with each other. QB-needy teams that know that the coveted pick above them is not going to be spent on a QB can sit back (pick value watered-down).

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  7. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    it's 11:59, anybody know Kirk Cousins' cellphone #?

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  8. macbk

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    I think the plan is Teddy or McCown, not both.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but Dorsey has a track record of having a great eye for talent and he backed those trades up with some great drafting. He built KC's team/loaded it with talent.

    Here's a great article that I think gives a very fair evaluation of Dorsey. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/john_dorseys_5_offseasons_with.html

    The only thing I don't like is that he brings in too many players who are serious character risks.

    I didn't remember, but he played in the NFL for Green Bay. He was a 4th round pick in 1984. He played LB and on STs. He still holds the Packers STs record of 34 tackles in a season (1984). His playing career ended in 1989 due to a knee injury. In 1991 he was hired by the Packers as a college scout. In 1997 he became their Director of College Scouting. He followed Mike Holmgren to Seattle in January 1999 and became the Seahawks Director of Player Personnel. He resigned in 2000 and returned to the Packers as Director of College Scouting. He continued in that position until 2012 when he was named Director of Football Operations. Notable players or players the Packers drafted while he was Director of College Scouting who started and/or stayed with the Packers for 7 years or more, or are still in the league, are Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, Greg Jennings, Bubba Franks, Chad Clifton, Na'il Diggs, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Mark Tauscher, Robert Ferguson, Bhawoh Jue, Craig Nall, Javon Walker, Najeh Davenport, Aaron Kampman, Nick Barnett, Kenny Peterson, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Christ Johnson, Ahmad Caroll, Joey Thomas, Corey Williams, Scott Wells, Nick Collins, Brady Poppinga, AJ Hawk, Daryn Colledge, Will Blackmon, Johnny Jolly, James Jones, Allen Barbre, Mason Crosby, Desmond Bishop, Clark Harris, Jordy Nelson, Josh Sitton, Breno Giacomini, Matt Flynn, BJ Raji. TJ Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Morgan Burnett, Marshall Newhouse, Randall Cobb, Davon House, Lawrence Guy, . During his time as Director of College Scouting, the Packers became one of the best drafting teams in the NFL.

    In January 2013 he became GM of the Chiefs. He hired Andy Reid as HC. Notable players he drafted for the Chiefs are Eric Fisher, Travis Kelce, Dee Ford, Phillip Gaines, Zach Fulton, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse, Chris Conley, Steve Nelson, Ramik Wilson, Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes, and Kareem Hunt. He missed on some players too, but that's a pretty good haul in 5 drafts. I used the following article. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...n-John-Dorsey-made-in-the-NFL-Draft-112328382
     
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  10. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    The same month we got Idzik because Woody wouldn't allow the next GM to fire Rex after Tanny got the axe. o_O
     
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    As a Wisconsin native, I feel I should point out that GB is notorious for collecting draft picks, and screwing up high selections. Because they let so many good players go in free agency, they get mid round picks a lot, so naturally, some of those turn out pretty well, making that list look pretty good.
     
  12. The Dark Knight

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    Wonder how things are going at One Jets Drive right now? Wish I could be a fly on the wall watching. Must be intense.
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    Good point, but still, one has to make the right choices with those mid round picks, and overall Dorsey did a great job. Also, one has to keep in mind that Dorsey wasn't the Packers' GM during that time, and wasn't making decisions regarding re-signing players and FAs. During that time, the following were the Packers' GMs: Ron Wolf (2000), Mike Sherman (HC/GM) (2001-2004), and Ted Thompson (2005 - 2017). They were the ones making the decisions to let players leave in FA.
     
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  14. GQMartin

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    Jets were first to call but got put on hold when Minnesota rang.

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  15. NYJalltheway

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    I see you did your research lol. Yeah time will tell with them.
     
  16. NCJetsfan

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    Yes, even though some posters here try to discredit me and say I have no idea what I'm talking about, I almost always do research to back up my opinions. Sometimes, my research shows that my initial opinions/thoughts were wrong. That's cool too. I like learning, and having interesting discussions. Thanks.
     
  17. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Spoiler Alert: I predict Cousins will sign with the Denver Broncos.
     
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  18. jetsclaps

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    Cousins wrote a farewell letter to redskins fans.

    At the end he tagged 3 teams in the post. Vikings, Jets, and Redskins.

    Hmmmmmmm
     
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  19. The Dark Knight

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    Accidentally, right? Wow, his agent is clever.
     
  20. macbk

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    Have this awful feeling the Jets are going to be duped and wasting their time.
     
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