Who is the All-Time SECOND Best Jets QB?

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Who is the All-Time SECOND Best Jets QB?

  1. Richard Todd

    0.8%
  2. Ken O'Brien

    37.8%
  3. Vinny Testaverde

    13.4%
  4. Chad Pennington

    44.1%
  5. Mark Sanchez

    3.9%
  1. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Me'um sad at your anger. Otherwise, happy as a lark.
     
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  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Just out of curiosity I decided to take a crack at the no. 1 and no. 2 QB’s for each of the franchises



    Cardinals 1. Kurt Warner 2. Neil Lomax 3. Jim Hart 4. Carson Palmer
    Panthers 1. Cam Newton 2. Jake Delhomme
    Jaguars 1. Mark Brunell 2. David Garrard
    Detroit 1. Bobby Layne 2. Matt Stafford
    possibly Cleveland 1. Otto Graham 2. Bernie Kosar
    Houston / Tennessee 1. Warren Moon 2. Steve McNair
    Minneosta 1. Fran Tarkenton 2. Tied by Many (Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, 90’s group Moon, Cunningham and George)
    New England 1. Tom Brady 2. Drew Bledsoe


    I’d say we rank behind New England, Cleveland, Detroit and Houston/Tennessee


    We are equal with the Cardinals


    Minnesota, Carolina and the Jaguars are below us
     
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  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'd take Chad over Drew Bledsoe, close w/ Kosar, Chad over Stafford
     
  4. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Man, Neil Lomax. There is a name from the past...
     
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  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I really can't. Bledsoe from 94-98 was in the elite level QBs. He was crap in 99 and beyond....took too many beatings. Kosar took the Browns the AFCCG 3-times and was two heartbreaks away from the SB (The Drive in 86 and the Fumble in 87).

    On second thought, I agree that Penny is better than Stafford.
     
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    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Hart was really good as well. The Cards had some pretty good QB's. They've also had some awful one's.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I disagree about Bledsoe, I always thought he was incredibly overrated. Curtis carried him to a SB where he threw it away. He was like O'Brien, both statues that took way too many sacks looking for the big play.

    Kosar I can agree with, I get blinded by how bad he was later in his career.

    Stafford has all the tools, there's something missing w/ him though.
     
  8. Pocket Jet

    Pocket Jet Well-Known Member

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    I hate to sound cynical, but I just really don't care about this stuff. Just cleansing my head of the past 4 years and hoping this breath of fresh air that has blown in to the Jets organization will make the right moves. Dwelling over past crap seems to unveil more bad and heartbreak than I really care to reminisce about.
     
  9. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Some of us enjoy talking about the past. It's fun for us to discuss NFL/Jets History. You don't have to click the thread ... It's not really like the Title was misleading or anything ;)
     
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    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Kosar was definitely bad towards the end... No doubt. You have to wonder if the side arm motion is what mostly caused his decline.

    You are right that Bledsoe took a lot of punishment looking for the big plays. But when he had Coates and Terry Glenn he could really light it up. He was a shooting star... Great for a bit but then fizzled out quickly.
     
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    all three are/were better than pennington
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I disagree, I'd take Chad at least over the incredibly overrated Bledsoe and Stafford.
     
  13. James Hasty

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    Stafford puts up some serious numbers, more than Chad ever did.
     
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    silliness.

    by the way ya'll forgot Tampa Bay.

    1) Doug Williams 2) Brad Johnson? Dilfer? Garcia for 2 years? (steve young doesn't count)

    I'll give Pennington the nod over those guys although 2 of them have SB rings and he doesn't, they won with unreal defenses. and Dilfer sucked in Tampa

    That puts us better than Tampa, Minnesota, Carolina and Jax.. 2 "newly" formed teams who have never won a SB, 1 of the worst overall franchises in history, traditionally and another who's never won a SB.

    We need some QBs!
     
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    Plus he stays on the field. Duh. Other than missing some games his first two years, he's been in all sixteen four years in a row. And counting. China Dollington played all 16 exactly twice in 11 years.
     
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    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    And Houston


    ETA - I thought he had Houston for the Oilers not the Texans... My fault.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    there's nothing silly about it, NE went from one of the worst teams in the league to a dynasty when Bledsoe got hurt. Chad took 1-15 Miami and led them to 11-5 and div title. Since 2001 only 2 QBs have led their teams to AFC East titles- Brady and Chad('02, '08)
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he's a #s guy, has the best WR in the league and this year had a damn good #2. #s are great but when they don't win games what do they mean?
     
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    Quarterback Date Team Opponent Result CMP ATT YDS TDS INT RATING Notes
    Ken O'Brien[6] 11/02/1986 New York Jets Seattle Seahawks W 38-7 26 32 431 4 0 158.3 NFL Record: Most yards passed with a perfect rating
    Ken O'Brien[7] 12/23/1990 New York Jets New England Patriots W 42-7 11 12 210 2 0 158.3 2nd career perfect rating
    Ken O'Brien[8] 11/17/1985 New York Jets Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 62-28 23 30 367 5 1 142.6 Most points since 1973
    Ken O'Brien[6] 09/07/1986 New York Jets Buffalo Bills W 28-24 18 25 318 2 0 140.8
    Ken O'Brien[9] 11/05/1989 New York Jets New England Patriots W 27-26 22 29 386 2 0 140.4
    Ken O'Brien[8] 11/09/1986 New York Jets Atlanta Falcons W 28-14 26 33 322 3 0 137.6 Completed 23 of his first 25 passes (92%)
    Ken O'Brien[10] 09/08/1988 New York Jets Houston Oilers W 45-3 17 26 260 3 0 136.7 Didn't play 4th Quarter. 3TD first half.
    Ken O'Brien[6] 09/21/1986 New York Jets Miami Dolphins W 51-45 29 43 479 4 1 126.0 Record for 25 years: 927 Combined yards passing. Marino had 448
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    and this means what exactly?
     

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