Just out of curiosity I decided to take a crack at the no. 1 and no. 2 QB’s for each of the franchises Cardinals 1. Kurt Warner 2. Neil Lomax 3. Jim Hart 4. Carson Palmer Panthers 1. Cam Newton 2. Jake Delhomme Jaguars 1. Mark Brunell 2. David Garrard Detroit 1. Bobby Layne 2. Matt Stafford possibly Cleveland 1. Otto Graham 2. Bernie Kosar Houston / Tennessee 1. Warren Moon 2. Steve McNair Minneosta 1. Fran Tarkenton 2. Tied by Many (Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, 90’s group Moon, Cunningham and George) New England 1. Tom Brady 2. Drew Bledsoe I’d say we rank behind New England, Cleveland, Detroit and Houston/Tennessee We are equal with the Cardinals Minnesota, Carolina and the Jaguars are below us
I really can't. Bledsoe from 94-98 was in the elite level QBs. He was crap in 99 and beyond....took too many beatings. Kosar took the Browns the AFCCG 3-times and was two heartbreaks away from the SB (The Drive in 86 and the Fumble in 87). On second thought, I agree that Penny is better than Stafford.
Hart was really good as well. The Cards had some pretty good QB's. They've also had some awful one's.
I disagree about Bledsoe, I always thought he was incredibly overrated. Curtis carried him to a SB where he threw it away. He was like O'Brien, both statues that took way too many sacks looking for the big play. Kosar I can agree with, I get blinded by how bad he was later in his career. Stafford has all the tools, there's something missing w/ him though.
I hate to sound cynical, but I just really don't care about this stuff. Just cleansing my head of the past 4 years and hoping this breath of fresh air that has blown in to the Jets organization will make the right moves. Dwelling over past crap seems to unveil more bad and heartbreak than I really care to reminisce about.
Some of us enjoy talking about the past. It's fun for us to discuss NFL/Jets History. You don't have to click the thread ... It's not really like the Title was misleading or anything
Kosar was definitely bad towards the end... No doubt. You have to wonder if the side arm motion is what mostly caused his decline. You are right that Bledsoe took a lot of punishment looking for the big plays. But when he had Coates and Terry Glenn he could really light it up. He was a shooting star... Great for a bit but then fizzled out quickly.
silliness. by the way ya'll forgot Tampa Bay. 1) Doug Williams 2) Brad Johnson? Dilfer? Garcia for 2 years? (steve young doesn't count) I'll give Pennington the nod over those guys although 2 of them have SB rings and he doesn't, they won with unreal defenses. and Dilfer sucked in Tampa That puts us better than Tampa, Minnesota, Carolina and Jax.. 2 "newly" formed teams who have never won a SB, 1 of the worst overall franchises in history, traditionally and another who's never won a SB. We need some QBs!
Plus he stays on the field. Duh. Other than missing some games his first two years, he's been in all sixteen four years in a row. And counting. China Dollington played all 16 exactly twice in 11 years.
there's nothing silly about it, NE went from one of the worst teams in the league to a dynasty when Bledsoe got hurt. Chad took 1-15 Miami and led them to 11-5 and div title. Since 2001 only 2 QBs have led their teams to AFC East titles- Brady and Chad('02, '08)
he's a #s guy, has the best WR in the league and this year had a damn good #2. #s are great but when they don't win games what do they mean?
Quarterback Date Team Opponent Result CMP ATT YDS TDS INT RATING Notes Ken O'Brien[6] 11/02/1986 New York Jets Seattle Seahawks W 38-7 26 32 431 4 0 158.3 NFL Record: Most yards passed with a perfect rating Ken O'Brien[7] 12/23/1990 New York Jets New England Patriots W 42-7 11 12 210 2 0 158.3 2nd career perfect rating Ken O'Brien[8] 11/17/1985 New York Jets Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 62-28 23 30 367 5 1 142.6 Most points since 1973 Ken O'Brien[6] 09/07/1986 New York Jets Buffalo Bills W 28-24 18 25 318 2 0 140.8 Ken O'Brien[9] 11/05/1989 New York Jets New England Patriots W 27-26 22 29 386 2 0 140.4 Ken O'Brien[8] 11/09/1986 New York Jets Atlanta Falcons W 28-14 26 33 322 3 0 137.6 Completed 23 of his first 25 passes (92%) Ken O'Brien[10] 09/08/1988 New York Jets Houston Oilers W 45-3 17 26 260 3 0 136.7 Didn't play 4th Quarter. 3TD first half. Ken O'Brien[6] 09/21/1986 New York Jets Miami Dolphins W 51-45 29 43 479 4 1 126.0 Record for 25 years: 927 Combined yards passing. Marino had 448